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Is The United States About To Implode?

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I think there are some important aspects of the Trump legacy beyond critique of China that have changed political discourse?

I am just interested in hearing what you supporters of Trump think.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Friday, 5 June 2020 11:49:53 AM
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Chris,

It certainly could happen: all he has to do is resolve the Covid-19 crisis, and to combat and defeat the larger, second, wave of deaths over the next few months.

Then oversee the re-connection of the US economy, first across the country, then with neighbouring countries like Mexico and Brasil and Canada, and then with the rest of the world;

Then mend his fences with China;

and of course, resolve many of the issues of inequality and police brutality which seem to be endemic to the US.

I'm sure that Trumpf has learnt a great deal from what he has read and seen on TV. He knows that he can do it, that he may have the November 3 election in the bag: all he has to do is put on his cape and shout "SHAZAAM !"

If only everybody else wouldn't get in his way or keep disparaging him, and all those other conspiracies too, why does everybody hate him so much ? So unfair.

I wish him all the luck that he is entitled to: i.e. twice as much of bugger-all.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 5 June 2020 11:50:58 AM
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Chris,

To me Trump's goose is well and truly cooked and there is nothing he has done or will do over the coming months that will save him.

It is the American political system and political culture that are working against him to prevent him from being re-elected. The system does not want a wannabe king running the country.

I'll stick my neck out here and take a punt that the Electoral College will put Biden into the White House even if Trump was to gain the popular vote because I think the political system that was set up by the founding fathers will kick in to get rid of what has been the weirdest president in US history.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 5 June 2020 12:10:47 PM
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Reasons
!. There is no proposed leader more adept than Trump at the moment.
2. Though Trump has his faults, he has instigated manufacturing that will employ more unskilled blacks.
3. He wants to defund Planned parenthood which murders black babies.
4. Trump is the only leader that can stand up to any World leader, without fear or favour.
5. Trump will not sell American uranium to nuclear threatening Nations.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 5 June 2020 1:35:56 PM
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Josephus,

You left out:

6. He is a clown.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 5 June 2020 1:40:33 PM
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I've said before that it'll be a miracle if Trump wins again given the forces arrayed against him - a victory as unlikely as that of Octavian and just as consequential. Consider that he is opposed by not just the Democrats but a portion of the Republicans, the vast majority of the mass media, basically all the social media platforms, the deep state and the bureaucracy in general, Wall Street, all of the US's enemies who dearly want and need him defeated. The only things in favour of a victory is the fact that the 'deplorables' realise he's their last best chance for economic salvation and of course his own intellect and media savee.

The Trump revolution was/is a revolt by those who were pushed aside over the last three decades by the various elites. US manufacturing was outsourced to other nations, the great steal works and car manufacturers and coal mines and oil workers all pushed aside by elites looking to make money from cheap Asian labour and cheap Asian goods. It was a victory of the consuming classes over the producing classes. In a word it was globalisation...at the expense of the working man.

California is a microcosm of that future - a spectacularly rich ruling class, serviced by underpaid manual labourers and a pool of unemployed and homeless who are allowed to live on the scraps.

Trumpism threatens that elite and offers hope to the 'deplorables'.His defeat is a victory for Wall Street and the consuming elite and the final defeat for fly-over Americans. There will be no second chance.

Biden already talks of closing down the fracking industry that employs tens of thousands. Coal likewise. The border will be opened to allow in competitors for low paid jobs. The incentives to repatriate manufacturing will evaporate.
Trumpism is a sea change away from the conspiracy of the world’s elites against the world’s workers. That’s why the elite hate him and all he stands for. His defeat is the defeat of that revolution.

/cont
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 5 June 2020 1:51:36 PM
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