Chris,

No, have a look at my comments to NNS on p.1.

He is trying to get OzSpen out of a difficult situation by deflecting the debate I proposed to OzSpen.

My problem with life is that it is not a case of us all being born equal, nor can we all be equal in life. Imagine if we were all the same, we'd still be crawling around scrounging for nuts & berries !
My problem is that many people are making other peoples' lives a misery with blatant impunity !
Form religious leaders, to tribal leaders, for some reason there is a system of hierarchy. Where did this come from ? Do the majority of people actually need someone to stand over them ? I think they do ! It is obviously a matter of intelligence too. We need variety so as to function as a society & that's what separates us from the animals world.
Many humans have evolved to use intelligence whereas many are literally still animals !

Individual,

I agree with the argument that some like to lead and achieve, others like to follow or jut live simply.

I think that thinkers can come from both groups.

As for your suggestion some are stupid, and the question why is that so, I think if you are not inquisitive about life you will be much more likely to stay mediocre (not meant to be offensive) in both, or either, the material or intellectual sense.

But inquisitive to me is both thinking and listening. They should be the ones that rise and succeed in leadership roles, assuming good enough intellect and desire, but too many ruthless a..holes actually do because they choose to play the game and undermine people and rivals along the way.

Dear SteeleRedux,

«We however, to a greater degree than any other species, have a true sense of our own mortality»

Yes we have such a sense of mortality, but it is a false sense, not a true sense.

There are conditions in life that are so undesirable that we refuse to call them "life". Being left without a body is often one of them; and for some, even being under a lock-down and not being able to leave home is also considered "not life". Nevertheless, life includes both conditions that we like and conditions that we hate, we cannot pick and choose.

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Dear Mr. Opinion and Chris Lewis,

«Thanks for giving a religious view of LIFE (the biological entity).»

Biological-life is of the realm of science. Religion has no reason or ability to explain it, only science.

THE EXPERIENCE of having/being a biological-life, however, cannot not be explained scientifically: and this is where religious philosophy enters the picture.

Problems arise when people overstep their area of expertise: religious-leaders attempting to explain the existence of biological-life and scientists attempting to explain the experience of living as a biological-life-form.

To Josephus.

You're right of course. Living for God, and having Him in our lives is better then just searching for Him. However I know that a huge part of Yuyutsu's perspective is to continue on a path towards God. Living for God to him (if I understand his position correctly) is part of the path for finding God. So on that point I agree with him. Nonetheless. You're right that to live with God is much better.

To Chris Lewis.

I wouldn't go so far as to say most people just go through the motions. I think most people think about their purpose in some way or another. If it's about day to day things like have a job and survive, then moves on to being happy at work, moving up in the career path, or alternatively acknowledging what they want, whether it's a relationship, a family, to travel, or to own a home. These things everyone thinks about. Regardless if they phrase it as a purpose or not. As for the going through the motions of life. The two things I can say about that is 1) people form habits (which are very convenient and helpful) and 2) people go through the motions when they aren't either struggling to get by, or are excited about where they are and what they are doing.

Be very cautious of rationalizations that start with "most people..." I've found these ones the the least likely rationals to be accurate, as well as the least likely to be tested before being accepted.

As for the point of this thread, thank you for understanding that I was addressing more then one thing with these questions. The physical and the metaphysical is one element just because of Opinion's challenge of religion versus science, but I also meant to include living life as well not just defining life. (I think I've explained my reasons why already for adding that component to the topic).

To Individual.

What you've said is part of my reasoning that concludes that we live in a broken world, and that we are a broken people. (Individually as well as a group). It is a reason to love get your neighbor, to turn the other cheek, care for those in suffering, those in prison, those how need justice. Even to do so for our enemies and those we compete with. Do this because the world is broken, and because people are broken, because there is a need to be the salt that preserves and sanctifies the world from rotting on it's own.

As for why, out side of acknowledging the state of the world and the need for compassion, I have no real answer. The depth of misery hurts my heart and there's no thinking past that.