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Regarding God. I recommend to look for Him. It's not just a cultural thing, or psychological thing. As you've found with your peers, it's not even a science versus religion thing. Josephus pointed out that living for God is not just a purpose kind of thing, something that motivates you. But it's deeper then that. Kind of like how relationships enrich our lives, the same is with having God. The times in my life where I felt like I was near God, He filled me up. The times I've tried to be close to Him or to follow His direction, I noticed a difference in my ability to be a better person compared to the times when I avoid God.

Regarding your answer to question 4. I think this is talking about other things then just your enemy and s your own thoughts. Think more our enemy is not flesh and blood, on the level of your answer to question #5. How do you fight an idea. Fight a culture of pride and arrogance packaged looking like a mix of hardship and enlightenment. Where caring for another is either a burden, or their burden is mocked, gossiped, or even celebrated because it serves them right. Your enemy is not flesh and blood, but unseen forces in heavenly realms that have some kind of authority in the world. Think of Panpsychism as both that the universe is potentially self aware, and also everything in it is also to one degree or another. Add that to a hierarchy of it's own and you might get my thoughts of unseen forces that are not yourself (your mind) but also have authority. Or if you want to start on something smaller, consider in Quantium physics, where just by observing that can change the outcome. Doesn't that sound like something self aware that acknowledges it's being watched? Again all of this can be fascinating on a scientific level, but I still recommend to look for God also. See if He's real, see if He's there. He's worth finding.

The human species has always had a spiritual understanding of spiritual reality, take our ancient ancestors. However from a man called Adam 6,000 - 10,000 there emerged a more creative and moral human, Since then we have had persons from Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, Europe, Asia and Israel that have developed human philosophy and culture, at the same time we have persons from the areas that have devolved human culture into destructive paths. Every individual was to be in spirit free and equal, this is developed by education and practised values.

Not_Now.Soon,

So now everybody knows that God is an element of your religious view and that you cannot demonstrate the existence of God through either evidence or theory.

You only believe there is God and the God you believe in could not give rise to Life as a biological entity and thus create us because God cannot create something from nothingness.

Nothing is always nothing and cannot be made into something unless you want us to believe that God is some sort of super alchemist.

And the only way I or anyone can believe that is by discarding our scientific view of the world for a religious view of the world (like you have).

Josephus,

What in God's name are you talking about?

Looks like you have been infected by the religious view of the world.

I think you and NNS should get tested and self-isolate for two weeks. Better still make that two millennia.

Mr Opinion obviously you have been infected with an atheistic view of reality; that is nothing created all things. I happen to believe in a spiritual Creator, who created chemical order and life.

When Mr O can create DNA in a complex form from nothing your argument might be valid. You have to assume that all chemistry was eternal, when in fact all bio-chemistry has a life span.

Josephus,

What you just said is totally irrational and contradictory.

I have a scientific view of the world and you have a religious view of the world.

For me Life is a product of matter and energy contained within the Universe; for you Life was created by an all-caring, all-powerful, all-knowing God.

For you Life was created from nothingness by God. This is a religious view of the creation of Life.

But something cannot be created out of nothingness. I'll say that again in case you didn't get it: SOMETHING CANNOT BE CREATED OUT OF NOTHINGNESS.

So I challenge you, NNS, OzSpen and others with a religious view of the world to provide evidence or theory that shows that something can be created out of nothingness.