SR,

Mhaze's point is valid, the left whingers on OLO and everywhere believe the victim when the accused is a target of the left and are silent when the accused is a left whinger.

Cases in point Bill Shorten and George Pell, Kavanaugh and Biden etc. There is a stronger case against Biden than there ever was against Kavanaugh, similarly there was no more evidence against Pell than there was against Shorten, yet all the left whingers conveniently "believed" the accusers that were convenient to their narrative and ignored the others.

Shadow Minister,

The arguments about Cardinal Pell were long and lengthy -
with the ultimate decision as to his guilt and
innocence being inconclusive.

Mr Shorten was never charged - the police dropped the case.
They decided there was no case.

Biden's guilt has yet to be proven - and so it goes.

You once again tend to finger-point at people and accuse
them of the type of behaviour that you are exhibiting.

It seems that your own political inclinations also influence
your rational and views on this forum - so you're really
in no position to judge others.

Neither are any of us - if we're honest.

Shadow Minister,

You seem to have an obsession with the "Left."

What about taking a look at the problems within
your own party.

These days most people's views are not set in concrete
and their views do change. You seem to be the only one
firmly stuck in a one-eyed view.

Foxy,

We may not like it but the question of Pell's innocence or guilt was proven, i.e. tested, pretty conclusively by the unanimous verdict of the highest court in the land, with no recourse to appeal. In law, he is innocent. Let's move on.

Of course there may be other charges, relating to earlier days. We live in hope.

But justice is supposed to be blind, giving due consideration to the contending arguments in both Pell's and Biden's cases. Pell has been tried and found not guilty. Biden has yet to be tried on Ms Reade's charges. In fact, I think she is yet to bring them, so there is a very long way to go.

Love always,

Joe

Dear Shadow Minister,

You write;

“There is a stronger case against Biden than there ever was against Kavanaugh, similarly there was no more evidence against Pell than there was against Shorten, yet all the left whingers conveniently "believed" the accusers that were convenient to their narrative and ignored the others.”

What? Well you have a cheek. More evidence for Shorten? How on earth do you figure that?

The incident described by the person in Shorten's case was 32 years ago when Shorted was 19. The one against Pell was 18 years ago.

Further there were an extraordinary number of similar allegations against Pell with the magistrate hearing from over 50 witnesses. There were many cases that weren't proceeded with, one where the complainant had passed away and another where they were deemed unfit to give evidence. Many others the judge felt did not have enough evidence to secure a prosecution. Two were proceeded with.

There was no such pattern of behaviour shown by Shorten. Might he have committed the offence? Quite possibly, but there is no way you can compare the likelihood of him having done so with that of Pell.

In my opinion was Pell among the worst of the abusers he rubbed shoulders with? Possibly not but for anyone to ever say with absolute certainty he is squeaky clean would be to deny the record.

LOUDmouth,

On Pell (of the Pells Angels fame) you just said:

"Of course there may be other charges, relating to earlier days. We live in hope."

What are you living in hope of? That he will be found guilty?