I frankly don't give a hoot about Biden.

He'll be taken care of in due course.

As for media bias - don't even get me started on
the Murdoch press and Cardinal Pell.

Foxy,

1 The police never declared that there was no case against Shorten, only that there was insufficient evidence. Pretty much along the lines of Pell's final verdict.

2 Kavanagh was not in court, he was being questioned by highly partisan Democrat senators and acquitted himself perfectly well. That he used to drink as a student is irrelevant. Secondly his accuser could not name the place or date or anyone else that went to this "party" where this event was purported to have taken place, to claim that her testimony was credible can't be claimed with a straight face.

3 If Biden is dumped who will be the democratic nominee? Sanders?

Hi SM,

Innocent until proven guilty.

So both Shorten and Pell are innocent: neither was proven guilty by any process of law.

Can we move on ?

Whether Biden will be found guilty of sexual assault will depend on charges being brought against him and a trial finding him guilty. Until then, he is as technically innocent as Shorten and Pell.

Given that it's material evidence that matters, it must be a terrible situation for a woman to be in, to be assaulted with no witnesses, no physical marks, no lasting signs of assault, etc. Certainly, if she reports soon afterwards to a relation or friend or the police, that would count for something, but most likely not enough.

But maybe the lesson is that situations which put vulnerable people, women and children, in danger, have to be minimised, in schools, offices, private places, etc. This unfortunately puts the onus back on the potential victims to be vigilant and not to put themselves, as much as possible, in such situations. And of course, for institutions to minimise the opportunities for such crimes.

Joe

Shadow Minister,

I don't have the time nor the inclination to continue
to respond to your mantra.

Foxy,

You are confusing your opinion with facts.

Shadow Minister,

No. I never do that. I firstly get the facts
then I form my opinion. It's an occupational habit.