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'China’s Feet Must Be Held To The Fire'

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The thieves in Canberra pulled off a bigger "Ponzi scheme" than Bernie Madoff ever did. They took our money and used it elsewhere. They forgot (oh yes, they knew) that it was OUR money they were taking. They didn't have a referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them. And they didn't pay interest on the debt they assumed. And recently they've told us that the money won't support us for very much longer.

But is it our fault they misused our investments? And now, to add insult to injury, they're calling it "welfare", as if we never worked to earn every penny of it.

Just because they borrowed the money doesn't mean that our investments were a charity!

Let's take a stand . We have earned our right to our pensions. Demand that our MP's bring some sense into our government.

Find a way to keep Old Age Pension going for the sake of that 92% of our population who need it.

Then call it what it is: Our Earned Retirement Income.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 9:06:06 PM
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Dear individual,

Well look here, we agree on something.

This and the drive Medicare and public hospitals as only for the less fortunate is stripping the notion of us as an egalitarian nation.

Universal healthcare and universal aged pensions have been the target for right wing governments for decades. The likelihood that this current crisis will be used for radically changing our society is growing.

Dear mhaze,

I think you are growing far too fond of your words being reposted. You must stop or people will talk.

This is what you claimed of me;

"I was talking more about how you'd fallen HL&S for the Russian collusion story, the Trump as a warmonger meme, Trump destroying the economy meme, Trump being wrong on Warren's heritage meme, Trump loosing the trade war moronosity etc etc"

Warren never claimed she was Indian just that she had Indian heritage which her tests proved. Stop flogging this, the horse is dead.

Trump was not found innocent of collusion but rather;

“The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller told the House judiciary committee, adding that Trump could theoretically be indicted after he leaves office.

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

And where on earth did I say he was losing the trade war or destroying the economy?

Mate you are so full of it you must be ready to burst. Stop making this stuff up. I know it is just another smoke screen you put up when you are in trouble but it really is getting boring.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 9:23:12 PM
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Indy, where is the evidence that 7.5% of your tax was for your future pension? Where was it invested, You figures are imaginary, like me you invested in compulsory supa, and nothing more, I invested a lot more for my retirement than you did. Your tax was used for all that government spend money on at that time. I have paid as much, probably more, income tax over 50 years than you have. I should have as much right to an aged welfare payment as you do.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:31:42 PM
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Steeleredux,
If you don't know about the 7.5% payment then you can't be the age you claim you are !
Re Superannuation. We paid into Super unlike you who salary sacrificed the contributions & or wrote it off via NG.
So, in actual fact YOU ARE the welfare jockey here, not us Pensioners !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 8:16:37 AM
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Btw. anyone still have a payslip from the '70's ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 8:18:05 AM
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target for right wing governments
SteeleRedux,
Umm 'err, it was Whitlam's useless outfit that first started hiding the Pension fund but the Conservatives didn't make any effort either to reinstate it !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 8:21:44 AM
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