Hi Mr O,

The problem with Morrison and his government is simple, they have done many of the right things, but in half measure and in retrospect. With this virus, time is of the essence, decisions, that's where political leadership comes in, must be of the proactive kind, not simply reactive. Morrison has been very much reactive, failing as they say to get in front of the curve. Advisers are only there to advise, and offer suggestions and alternatives, at the end of the day its the leadership that must make the bold decisions and take responsibility. On the medical issues Morrison has looked very much for the safe alternative, and then acted accordingly, not wanting to impact the economy, when that should not of been of greater concern. If things go wrong Morrison will be quick to blame the medical advice he received.

The other area the government fell down early, was giving too much consideration and importance to the economic issues, and by default less importance to the medical issues. That attitude simply slowed down the medical response. The government instead of treating both with equal impotence, should have given a much higher priority to making bold decisions based on the medical need, and attacked the economic problems a little while later.

Mr O, I value your comments, like that of Steele's greatly', a refreshing and intelligent change from those of the crusty old farts. On the 'Coronavirus Package' thread. I'm interested on what you think about what I've said.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9120&page=0#301414

Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 30 March 2020 5:39:33 AM

In NSW, anyone who leaves their (sic) house without a reasonable excuse will face a fine of $11,000. (SMH). That's either over top, or the New South Welsh are incapable of acting sensibly (think Bondi beach).

It could also be a gross over-reaction from a panicking, incompetent Premier

Paul wrote:"Without evidence, Trump implied health care workers are stealing masks."

Paul probably didn't notice it, but even in the things he quoted, Trump didn't mention health care workers. That was just something Paul, or the people he relies on to tell him what to think, made up.

By way of background, for weeks New York had been complaining that they weren't given enough ventilators. All Trump's fault, of course. Then it was revealed that they in fact had a massive 'stockpile' of ventilators stored for later use. Trump was suggesting that the same fate might have occurred to the masks being sent out.
You probably didn't hear about the stockpile stuff up because, as Jim Treacher says, "Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."

So Paul, you've made a series of assertions about Trump 'errors', none of which are true. But change your mind....fat chance.

" lets compare the door welders to the footy goers"

Well before you get too carried away with your swooning over the door welders, you might ponder this..."[Boris] "Johnson has been warned by scientific advisers that China's officially declared statistics on the number of cases of coronavirus could be 'downplayed by a factor of 15 to 40 times."

SR,

"he might have gron pat his TV persona"
Huh?

" when after the Las Vegas shooting he was going to act on gun control, or when he was convinced about the need to act on climate change."
Huh?

I was talking more about how you'd fallen HL&S for the Russian collusion story, the Trump as a warmonger meme, Trump destroying the economy meme, Trump being wrong on Warren's heritage meme, Trump loosing the trade war moronosity etc etc

mhaze said; "Then it was revealed that they in fact had a massive 'stockpile' of ventilators" No evidence provided just what mhaze said.

mhaze said; "warned by scientific advisers that China's officially declared statistics on the number of cases of coronavirus could be 'downplayed by a factor of 15 to 40 times." could be 15,000 to 40,000 times, could be anything you like it to be. No evidence from mhaze as to who are these "scientific advisers", and where did their assertion come from? Maybe the same scientific advisers, advised Boris to go around shacking hands with everyone. Anyone can be a scientific adviser, even you mhaze, now that's saying something.

mhaze, I told you I am happy for your man Trump to be President for life, even longer, the Americans deserve him. I don't much care for American politics, they are what they are. Are you a YANK! I think so

Paul1405,

I concur with what you are saying.

It's useless trying to talk to The Forum's Old Farts Club members. Their knowledge of the world is extremely poor and they are the sort of people who would sell you off to China before you could say "Wuhan virus".