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'China’s Feet Must Be Held To The Fire'

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Well, that’s what SkyNews’ Rita Panahi reckons. She also thinks that the apologists for China who brand as ‘racists’ anyone who mentions the source of the China virus are “certifiable morons”. Good stuff.

China’s culpability and conduct must be dealt with. The virus originated in the Chinese wet markets; the same places that produced SARS and bird flu. The CCP lied and destroyed evidence, and arrested doctors and whistle blowers, who have since vanished. 95% of the virus cases could have been prevented if the Chinese regime had acted 3 weeks earlier.

The World Health Organisation should also be slated. They actually praised the regime’s response, ignoring its dishonesty and recklessness. It has been suggested elsewhere that the fact that most of WHO’s funding comes from China might have something to do with their parroting of the CCP’s propaganda.

On January 14th a WHO press release stated that “Preliminary investigation has found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission”. It also mimicked China’s criticism of travel restrictions.

The media, particularly the US Left media, is regurgitating the Chinese Communist Party’s lies free of charge. But we must not allow the totalitarian regime to “rewrite history”. Nor should we be harping against our own people’s efforts to solve a problem quite clearly inflicted on us by China.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 March 2020 2:19:04 PM
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Rita is normally right. And we are told to believe all women. Unless of course its an uncle tom conservative (really one outside marxist groupthink).
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 11:27:20 AM
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ttbh: You say, "95% of the virus cases could have been prevented if the Chinese regime had acted 3 weeks earlier."

This is absolute rubbish!!

It wouldn't have made any difference to the current tragic state of affairs if China acted earlier because, our government wouldn't have acted any earlier!!

Western governments handling of this has been a total fiasco. They've had *MONTHS* to get their bundle together and yet did hardly anything till it was way too late.

This is especially so in Australia since we are an inland it would have been trivial to close our borders months ago. Even though people were public asking them to drastically tighten border control and implement mandatory quarantine they choose to "protect the economy" over the population. We didn't tighten to borders because of the supposed impact it would have had on tourism/international students/migration numbers. Yet anybody with half a brain could foresee the potential catastrophic economic impact that we are now dealing with (eg: the closing of businesses and laying off of workers) would outweigh any impact on tourism.

Indeed, we could have perhaps even created a new income stream out of this global crisis. Because if we kept our country virus free then we could sell sanctuary, at a very great price, to rich people who want some where safe to live.
Posted by thinkabit, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 11:30:43 AM
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"China’s Feet Must Be Held To The Fire"

Not only MUST but WILL. They will be held to account.

Any way you cut this, the current crisis is occurring because of the ChiCom's utter contempt for the lives of their own people let alone the lives of foreigners. The first and last concern of the Chinese leadership was to protect itself by first denying the problem and then seeking to spread and transfer the blame.

To be sure, others were also somewhat complicit, not least of which is the W.H.O. which spent way to much time and effort covering for the Chinese leadership and way to little time showing required scepticism about the outright lies they were being told and then disseminating.

Additionally many governments have not exactly covered themselves in glory. Italy, on the brink of a catastrophe, sought to display its anti-racism by promoting "Hug a Chinese" idiocy.

The media as well should be examined. From opposing the early attempts to institute travel bans to supporting Chinese attempts to pass the blame.

But despite all that, by far the greater part of the blame goes home to Xi and his henchmen. There will be a reckoning.

First, the world will never again accept at face value the lies coming from Peking. Travel bans will eventually be lifted but the free flow of people into and out of these disease-incubator nations will cease. Want to visit China? OK, but be prepared to be thoroughly vetted on your return. Want to visit from China. Again OK, but again, you won't be just strolling through customs like before.

/cont
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:47:59 PM
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/cont

Yep, there'll be the usual dills crying racism as a Yank gets to come in without vetting while a Chinese visitor is put through a thorough grilling. But they'll just have to get used to the new world.

But the real hit for China will be economic. Already there are legislative moves in the US to pull back ALL medical production from China to the US or allied nations. No more being reliant on the ChiComs for masks or medications.

Western companies, already nervous about being in China in the face of Trump's trade-war, and also eyeing possibilities elsewhere, are now starting to realise that the advantages of using cheap or even slave labour in China and avoiding environmental regulations, comes with a cost. And that cost is devastating. The trickle of companies leaving China, which became a river under Trump, will become a flood.

The CCP made a pact with its people 30 years ago, for them to surrender freedom in exchange for wealth. What happens when they can provide neither?

For Australia, things could hardly be worse. China will be held to account, but those reliant on China will suffer also. And there is none more reliant than us. Ever since the early 1990s we've bet the house on China. We've rode the Chinese wave and pretended it'd never end. We've pissed off other potential partners like Taiwan and India so that we could remain on the good side of the CCP. But now the faecal matter is about to hit the cooling device and we are standing right in front of it.

And what are we doing about it. Closing down the economy AND totally stripping bare the money tree out the back of parliament house.

Things are going to be bad for the Chinese. But not much better for us.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:48:09 PM
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Great idea ttbn, but just who is going to hold China's feet anywhere.

We have given control of our health care equipment & medications to China, by transferring our manufacturing of both to there.

We have transferred control of our electronics industry there, both by manufacture of the hardware but also of the mining & production of the metals required for much of modern electronic components & equipment.

If push comes to shove, China can close off the supply of vital materials & componentry needed for our, read US, defense equipment & smart munitions, & simply absorb punishment until we are reduced to chucking rocks & sticks at them.

Trump is proven right in his efforts to return American industry & technology to the US, but it is going to take years or decades to get self sufficiency back in the US. At least they have an oil industry, & haven't sent it off shore as we stupidly have, & that US master stroke is down to you know who.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:56:23 PM
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