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A Prime Minister and doctors attack on Australians and their civil liberties

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The Prime Minister last night announced more sectors that will need to close. I don't know that directly relates to health advice though. For example I can come close to a doctor at a GP clinic or I may come close to someone, somewhere else in terms of a business, but these sectors are not closing.

Also the Prime Minister had made reference to people running outside fitness classes, limiting to 10. People can exercise by themselves, so it is quite clear the Prime Minister is promoting money over healthcare.

The Prime Minister can't keep picking out sectors. I feel he needs to consider simply encouraging people to be generous to support others they know, to avoid bulk purchasing saying so genuinely and announcing financial assistance to people for at least 3-6 months, without having to apply for jobs that are simply not there.

The Prime Minister has also advised against larger family gatherings and people congregating in groups in public. I am I going to be prosecuted or told to move on by the police?

Will there be some industries that simply go underground?

With all of that, schools are being told to stay open. Parents should be responsible for the raising and educating of children they have created.

I encourage people to take in health advice and make their own judgement - but this includes people with many medical conditions and those people for example who may have the flu or another virus at present. These people should not be forgotten.
Posted by NathanJ, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:59:15 AM
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Hi NJ, that is clear the PM put making money as a priority over health last night. When asked why a couple getting married could only have five in attendence, themselves, two witnesses and the celebrant, yet a 'boot camp' operator could have 10, I presume 11 including the operator. According to ScumO', the boot camp operator was given largesse, because they were in business.

BTW, how many of those boot camp operators are strictly cash. When I was in Sydney, the wife of a local gym operator ran such a thing, in a local park, most likely without a council permit. Our neighbours son used to go to that particular gym, he was a member, he also went sometimes to the park workout, $10 cash a morning so he said.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:35:47 PM
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Come on some of you blokes are dragging your knuckles on this, the PM takes advise from the Health professionals. The nursing and medical staff attending COVID-19 patients at the moment are doing double shifts so just obey the rules and isolate. I was shopping in Coles this morning and police were at the door only letting in limited shoppers and insisting we observe the 1.5 m ruling, and use hand wipes on hands and trolleys. If you are sick ring your Dr. first with your symptoms, do not attend the surgery. If your activity is outdoor you are at less risk providing you are not handling equipment without disinfecting it.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 3:40:21 PM
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Dear Josephus,

The tone of your last post, and I will only comment about this tone rather than about the content, is aggressive, unfriendly, humiliating, and the last thing that could convince anyone to follow the "rules" in question - unless of course you hold a gun to their head.

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Dear Nathan,

«He's also not realising States and Territories can make their own decisions.»

It has been long that I have called for independence of the states within the continent of Australia: perhaps there is light at the end of this dark tunnel!

Overall, good things await us at the other end: some say this will be the end of globalisation with increased self-sufficiency at all levels: Australia, its states, local groups and individual homes. There is hope that things will become simpler again, bureaucracy and regulations cut down, especially when we no longer have to abide by international standards and dictates. On the downside, I am afraid that the physical isolation will accelerate the dependence on computers, digital devices and the internet. Let's hope for the best.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 26 March 2020 3:00:30 PM
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I'm starting to get some people say to me as the Prime Minister announces more restrictions on freedom of movement and particularly certain sectors being forced to shut, "where do you draw the line?" and I agree.

As one other person has put on this site as part of their discussion topic: "A kindergarten teacher friend told me at the time that if you don't keep the kids busy they will quickly degenerate into fighting."

Some people have seen others fighting over toilet paper on social media. I think that proves the above point. All people are children - and it is important to keep people mentally stimulated as a result. Sending out messages about keeping people locked up, to stay closed and stuck at home away from mentally stimulating activity, the environment and clean air is not the way forward!
Posted by NathanJ, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:11:37 AM
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If we had a small land mass as Taiwan we could manage people by taking their temperature and sanitizing at every step of their movement. They have not put everyone into isolation and not closed down businesses.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:48:07 AM
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