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Posted by individual, Sunday, 5 April 2020 6:21:29 PM
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Have a comment on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 5 April 2020 9:19:45 PM
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"I (individual) would not sweep it under the carpet, I would try to remedy the stuff-ups asap. I would not waste many more millions to find a scape Goat."
The stuff up was unforgivable with the resultant loss of life, related to the 'Ruby Princess' now standing at 11, with hundreds who were let into the community testing positive for the virus. Like trying to hide an elephant in a strawberry patch, the NSW government has moved the 'Ruby Princess' to Port Kembla, where hundreds on board (crew) are now sick. The Illawarra region does not have the medical facilities to handle such an influx. Trying to protect their arses Gladys and Brad believe out of sight, out of mind. Well no, like the elephant in the strawberry patch you can't hide a 100,000 tonne ship in a harbour. You ask about scapegoats, the LNP government would like to pin it on the ships captain. You ask; "I'm still waiting for what you would like to see done about the present situation so that no-one can come back & criticise like you're always doing!" BTW you are always banging on with criticism of others in society. Pot calling the kettle black I would say. I certainly would not put some army of unemployed in the field to spread the virus as you advocate. What do you want? Blind obedience! When there is a problem like this we should all have something to say. "Criticising with hindsight is something only the lower ranked academic types do." Do they really Indy, so you say. As soon as I heard that 2700 people had walked off the 'Ruby Princess' I posted my concerns about such a stuff up on this very forum, nothing to do with hindsight Indy. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 6 April 2020 3:20:03 PM
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Paul1405,
Your quip-rant aside, how about telling us your idea of sorting this out ? Or, do you think dragging up what can't be undone will somehow solve this crisis ? Just for once, suggest a solution ! Yes the RUBY PRINCESS was huge mistake so, why didn't the hindsight experts jump in & prevent the passengers from leaving the arrival area ? Can we rally blame ALL the deaths of those 70+ year olds on that virus ? I recall many old people succumbing to the Flu in the past ? Yes, COVID-19 is the worst we've seen in our lifetime but let's not turn it into a compensation bandwagon ! Posted by individual, Monday, 6 April 2020 7:14:37 PM
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There has been suspicion on the Ruby Princess arriving at 2am.
Some implied they arrived then instead of the usual 8am so they could sneak the passengers ashore. Passengers made comment they had never been on a cruise ship that had gone at such a high speed on that part of the voyage. I think perhaps it was because they had arranged ambulances to meet the ship in Sydney and wanted to get those passengers to hospital. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 6 April 2020 9:49:46 PM
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Although Indy would like it all swept under the carpet to protect the arses of a few LNP politicians, the 'Ruby Princess' wont go away, deaths and sickness all over the place. Gladys, Scott and Brad must wish the 'Ruby Princess' was a submarine and not a 100,000 ton cruse liner, then they could hide it on the bottom of Sydney Harbour and not in Port Kembla.
Bazz, there is a strong suspicion when the 'Ruby Princess' left Sydney that passengers soon after started to report "flu like symptoms". The ship cut the cruse short, making haste to return to Sydney. The operators Carnival Cruses did not want another costly incident as they had suffered in Japan with the Ruby Princess's, sister ship 'Diamond Princess'. Forced to notify Australian authorities of the conditions on board, but wishing to disembark the 2700 passengers ASAP to save any possible quarantine costs, strings were pulled with NSW Health and Boarder Security to get the passengers off post haste. Then they become a problem for Australia, bugger the rest of us. Now who was trying to put profits before Australian lives, Hazzard and Berejiklian have tried to down play the whole incident and deflect responsibility onto the ships captain. I smell a rat! All I can say it should be GOODBYE BRAD! Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 5:47:21 PM
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Wrong as per your usual. I would not sweep it under the carpet, I would try to remedy the stuff-ups asap. I would not waste many more millions to find a scape Goat.
I suggest we continue with self isolation for at least another two months. After that, I would not allow mass spectator sporting events for another 6 months. I would not give permanent welfare recipients any more than what they received thus far. I would compensate wage earners for loss of income until they return to work & I would reduce Public Service salaries above $120,000 by 10 % & those above $200,000 by 15 % for every Dollar earned.
I would establish a Non-Military National Service focussing on emergency work & general community work at the basic minimum wage with accommodation & food supplied for the unemployed single people. Ideally, a Flat tax for wage earners to start with.
All these would ensure economic recovery with far lsee pain than the present system. We must change the system, it's as simple as that.
I'm still waiting for what you would like to see done about the present situation so that no-one can come back & criticise like you're always doing !
Criticising with hindsight is something only the lower ranked academic types do.