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A Prime Minister and doctors attack on Australians and their civil liberties

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Hey Paul1405,
"Do they really Indy, so you say. As soon as I heard that 2700 people had walked off the 'Ruby Princess' I posted my concerns about such a stuff up on this very forum, nothing to do with hindsight Indy."

I'm unsure whether I actually oppose 2700 people coming off the 'Ruby Princess'.
What I definitely oppose is that they weren't quarantined properly to prevent spread of the virus after they walked off the boat.

I don't know whether or not Keeping them all on on-board the ship is a better idea than letting them off, provided there's somewhere to house and quarantine them.

Should the simple easy answer that we should just leave all these passengers (many of which are retirees or in their 70's) on the ships instead?
I'm not sure leaving them there is an acceptable answer.
Simple and easy, yes, but whether it's the right one, not sure.

My 'Socialist Base Level Employment Scheme' is in some ways similar to the ideas surrounding individuals 'National Service' idea.
Part of my idea would've seen removable dwellings assembled on factory production lines and delivered on site.
With my idea, and maybe with a little ramping up (and some temp fencing panels and use of local sports fields we might've had all the removable dwellings we needed to easily deal with these quarantines / self isolation's.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 9:53:27 PM
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Hey Paul1405,

You want to know what angers me about the whole saga?

I saw Gladys trying to defend her actions, trying to give some mealy-mouthed bs excuse whilst passing the buck at the same time:
"I was just relying on the advice I was given".

I think its all total bs.
The buck stops at her doorstep.
Don't make excuses for your own governments incompetence;
She's adding insult to injury.

She's the one who has been given the responsibility to manage the affairs of the state of NSW.
It IS her fault, It's her job to know.
You see too much of this bureaucratical blame game and I don't like it.

- Weak Incompetent Low-Grade Governance -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 2:13:48 PM
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Hey AC, I think we are very much in agreement on this. And to show I'm not simply having a shot at the NSW LNP government. I believe some of the actions of the Palaszczuk Labor government up here in Queensland have been somewhat tardy as well, the boarder business was badly handled. I believe the actions of the LNP governments in both Tasmania and South Australia have been very good, along with Labor in Victoria and Western Australia. Even ScumO' after a slow Trump like start has managed to get up to speed as well, but I'm only giving him a C+ at best.

From the start, as soon as I heard about the mass uncontrolled disembarking, I pinged cruse ships as 100,000 ton floating petri dishes for this virus. A large number of people, passengers and crew, confined for a long period of time, in close contact with each other. With the 'Diamond Princess' episode in Japan you would think governments everywhere would be doubly cautious when it comes to these possible floating disasters. Its not like its a ten times a day event, the disembarking of passengers from such ships. As a basic precaution both Minister and Premier should have demanded to be fully informed as to such an event about to happen, and be the ones after a full briefing make the final decision concerning disembarkation.

The basic error that some testing was carried out, then without waiting for the results 2700 passengers were let flood down the gangplank. Does that in itself seem odd to you. The undue hast in returning to Sydney early, another odd occurrence I would say. None of this adds up, and it has cost lives. I watched the interview with the husband of that poor lady from the ship who died in Orange Hospital. The man had no political agenda, he was just overwhelmed with what had happened, and how it had happened.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 6:21:55 PM
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