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Religious Nutters or Perceptive Prophets ?

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Ok...this is possibly where I am described as the 'religious nutter' fruitcake that some have long suspected I am.

But wait.. not so fast.

BACKGROUND. Please read revelation 13:11-18

Lets look at this issue rationally. Yes, there are those who find 'the mark' on just about everything ranging from BankCard to Barcodes. Ok..taking Universal Product Code as an example, this is what is said:

http://www.indexoftheweb.com/Patriot/TheMark.htm
1/ "There are 3 sets of double bars at the beginning, middle and end"
2/ "The number '6' in any of the code numbers appears below a set of double bars exactly as at the beginning, middle and end".. so far so good.
3/ Therefore, the double bars (boundaries) in fact represent 6 6 6

or... do they ?

Realizing that in Binary, the number 6 is represented by 110 the 2 bars in the number section which represent '6' in fact ALSO have a 'null' or.. blank space which is the binary zero of the number 6
This therefore means that the double bars at the end, middle and other end can at best be '5' rather than 6.
CONCLUSION. 'The idea is spurious and lacks credibility'. but..it looked good at first glance.

THEORIES abound on the internet about where and who, and when...etc this 'beast' will arise, and where this 'mark' will turn up. Among those theories are those which suggest that the UN will have a big role in all this.

QUESTION.
Can anyone, and I mean ANYone.. provide me with an answer as to why this photograph contains..... u see for yourself.. look at the background....
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/pix/2005/53638.htm

I have no clue, I can't find anything about it.. maybe some other researcher can. I'd sure love to know if there is a reasonable explanation other than...the unthinkable.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 16 August 2007 12:06:25 AM
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Erm, Boazy. The photo was taken in 2005, the 60th anniversary of the establishment of the UN. They are triple 60s, not triple 6s.

In your case, I agree that the former part of your heading is the more applicable.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 7:51:14 AM
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CJ.. its rare that I actually thank you for your contributions.. but in this case I have to. Thanx.. I was not aware of this, and it does make sense.
I did a search, but could find nothing. Needless to say the 'prophecy/last days' industry will be doing its best efforts to see how this fits in with revelation, and you have to admit.. it looks like a fit.

I don't have any problem with truth, even truth which does not seem to match our 'grand scheme' scenarios.

Lets explore something here... If you DID see such a symbol in a UN or EU environment, and it became increasingly bold or from 'background' to foreground and there was no particular 'simple explanation for it.... would you see any connection to the Revelation passage ?

I can't wait for your answer :)

There is one more issue which is interesting in this connection, and it has to do with the greek for the number 666 itself. I did a verfication test for this (with a real world person), so it has a limited amount of basic credibility.

If the number from Codex vaticanus (350ad)is used for reference, the Greek for 666 has 3 characters. Above them, is a mark which signifies that the characters are to be read for a numerical value rather than a verbal. (this is the weakest part of this theory, as the 'mark' was not in the earliest fragments of papyrus). When this is shown to an Arabic speaker in mirror image, and rotated 90deg they will see it as 'Arabic' with a very specific meaning. You might like to look into that one.

cheers.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 16 August 2007 8:50:03 AM
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Boaz, you have moved into the realms of superstition.

All this 666 stuff is bunkum, in that it is utterly devoid of meaning, and hokum, in that it is simply a piece of showmanship, supposedly portentous but ultimately signifying nothing.

DCLXVI. Doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it? I wonder why.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 16 August 2007 9:43:36 AM
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Watch and learn kids, this is where a strong belief in superstition leads you.
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:09:06 AM
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Bugsy.. well observed, but your remarks are most accurate for those who assert with finality that such things are thus and so.

I'm raising an issue connected to the 'mark' which might be of interest to some. I've debunked some of the wilder ideas, myself.

CJ added his twopence worth and shed light on another. If you want to see just how whacky some of these things get, just to the obligatory google.

Probably the greatest danger to real understanding in these matters (For Christians mainly) is the proliferation of what I'd call spiritual 'spam'... lotttts of information, speculation and I guess in some cases adulation for the alleged 'knowledge' that some prophecy pundits claim to have.
-Hal Lindsay (Late Great Planet Earth)
-Tim Lahaye (various prophetic books)

come to mind.

One thing did strike me though, while most Christians do believe there will be an economic/military system which requires personal identification.."the mark" I'm guaging the responses here to see just how far fetched it is. ie.. Pericles, and you and CJ all call it 'supersticious' or similar words. Now..this kind of thing could well serve as a guarantee that if it ever does occur.. it certainly won't be opposed by many who will just 'poo poo' it as the fantasy's of Christians.

If anything, you blokes have assured us all that such a situation is entirely possible.

CJ showed how the 6--6--6 at the Quartet meeting of the UN was connected to the 60th anniversary. But the point is... "seeing" such a number (they did not have to make the 6 blatant and separate nor show X 3) arranged that way, and thinking nothing of it, would definitely be 'step one' in massaging public opinion towards the acceptance of it.
Yep...I'm being entirely speculative here, and not saying that's how it is, but the psychological dynamics thus far do indicate possibilities.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 16 August 2007 6:33:43 PM
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