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Religious Nutters or Perceptive Prophets ?

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Pericles.... let me assure you, I'm not having you all on or poking any fun at people. I'm exploring something which does concern me, and seeing the reactions has been most educational.

Without doubt.. I absolutely believe there will be some kind of anti-Christ and a social/economic/military world system which arises along with it, and some kind of 'false prophet' in leaque with that system. I also can fully accept the idea of some kind of identification that people are required to have in order to be a part of that system.

Broadly speaking, I see this as unfolded symbolically in Revelation and various other texts. Note..I said 'broadly'... I've seen the full range of interpretations of the passages, from the ultra whacky to the ultra confident to the plain stupid and even those which I would understand to be an indirect grab for spiritual power "See.. 'WE' have the truth about these things" kind of thing.

Celivia.. there is no 'newly discovered' fragment mate.. the 616 thing has been around for donkeys ages.. there are other numbers suggested also.

BUGSY.. I don't understand your statement:

"I believe that it would be more possible for those of us that believe your sort of stuff to make it happen."

Doesn't make much sense there.. please expand it. Thanx.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 17 August 2007 9:33:30 AM
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BOAZ, beyond my previous flippant remarks I reluctantly have to confess I actually share your concern about centralised control over individuals and entire populations.

The barcode concept is a bit outdated however. The use of implanted RFID microchips http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID is a far more elegant solution. These are a type of personal e-tag and can have readers situated everywhere.

That way, your physical movements can be tracked and cross-referenced if required. Crowds of demonstrators for example, can easily be scanned and individually identified.

This would be the ultimate solution and can easily be implemented under the umbrella of “national security” where we would not only submit to it, but probably demand it of our leaders. How many people who were opposed to the introduction of the Australia Card a while back are now in favour of a National ID card?

The recent comments by filmmaker Aaron Russo about Nick Rockefeller’s disclosures are uncomfortably believable, whether you are a dedicated conspiratist or not.

"The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world."

An interesting video of the interview is available out there and touches on a few topics. I don’t think Russo is the type of person who would put himself up for ridicule by going public on this for no good reason.

The 666 reference itself is probably too obscure to mean anything specific until after the event.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:55:40 AM
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Could it be that they are not 6s but 60s? Look at the date 2005 - the UN began in 1945 thus 60 years - you are also assuming that there are only 3 of these - we can only see three in the photo but...
Posted by Chappy, Friday, 17 August 2007 11:53:20 AM
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BD, I guess I didn't do proper research. At first, I thought you were not all that serious about it.
I don't know anything really about this 666 superstition thing and can't be bothered to worry about it.

Look, if 666 is "really" such an evil number, why didn't the world end in the year 666AD?

Did any huge disasters happen during this year?
What about on the 6th of June 666?
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:51:38 PM
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Thanx Wobbles, I'll sus that out..can you provide a link to any vidio audio ?

Chappy, the actual number has a number of alternatives.. 616 is one of them, 666 is the more common.

There is nothing 'evil' inherrantly in that number,but the evil would be in how it is used, but its use in the description of the 'beast' as its mark, gives rise to the need to at least be on the lookout for anything seeming to fulfill this (without jumping into cloud cuckoo land) I think it is one of those things which will 'be' or 'not be' ..not something that we need to read into every thing that happens which remotely looks like it.

Anecdote. The Post office in Bayswater was once on street number 666 Mountain Highway, they were the only people who would buy the place,which was on the market for AGES.

Celivia.. I think you misread me. I'm saying 'be alert' not be paranoid. I didn't claim 'this is it' I said "there are some interesting things around which deserve an explanation" in the light of this. CJ Morgan gave one, and that's what it's all about.. pooling knowledge.

Who can doubt that monitoring of our personal economic transactions and movements is far away ? From that it's only a tiny step to 'control' of those.
'Control' is a tiny step from imposing conditions on those transactions. You might say that 'The stage is set' even though the actors are yet to come onto it.

Most of what I read on this subject has to fall into the category of 'religious nutter', but we are still left with the scenario outlined in the Bible....which I don't place in the 'nutter' category.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 18 August 2007 6:59:16 AM
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From a Biblical perspective the 666 number is a Christian metaphor. In Old Testament thought the number 7 is the number for God - 6 is the number of man/ humankind.

In early Christian thought 777 was a way of referring to the idea of the trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit). So 666 was a way of alluding to a human making himself out to be God.

When Revelation was written (1st Century AD) 666 was probably refering to a Roman Caesar. But as Judeo-Christian prophecy works, it also was written to warn of another human leader making himself out to be God sometime in the future.
Posted by Chappy, Saturday, 18 August 2007 9:29:59 AM
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