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Religious Discrimination Act.

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and posted atrocious things under the pen-name "Individual"?
Yuyutsu,
Nothing would surprise me with those types ! Deceit is in their DNA.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 9:33:54 PM
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Dear Individual,

«Nothing would surprise me with those types ! Deceit is in their DNA.»

In that case they are not religious, they do not even consider the possibility of God watching them and knowing thoroughly all the deceit within their hearts - then why blame religion for evils done by the non-religious?!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 9:52:20 PM
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To Individual.

My intent isn't to dissect discrimination away from religion, if it's really there. If it's there, (or if there's any other harmful complaint), then taking that matter is worth it in my opinion to gauge if it really is harmful. See if there's any excuse for it; or assuming it is harmful and without excuse can it be resolved and changed.

In my opinion religion for the most part isn't discriminatory. The only exceptions that I can think of where it is is with Mormon churches, (because only fellow Mormons are allowed to come to the church services), and Scientology, (because you have to pay to be part of it, it's not voluntary from what I understand).

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 3:49:24 AM
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You said:

< yet the facts remain that Religion or rather the hypocrites who exploit Religion are discriminating against those over whom they hold control by telling them to believe something that can't at this stage not be proven to exist. >

I don't think you mean discrimination against nonbelievers in this case, but either manipulation of believers of a religion from it's leaders (best case argument), or that religious people are being coerced to believe something that can't be proven (a much weaker argument that goes into the issue of do people have the right to their own beliefs or do they all have to be proven).

If neither of those two arguments are what you mean, let me know. It still sounds like you are just mad at religion for being there and getting in your way in life. (Just the vibe I'm reading, that's not a quote from you). The problem with that kind of stance is that it leans heavily on whether someone else can believe what they believe or if that right should be removed.

As long as there's no actual harm being done (such as terrorist attacks in Islam, fraud in Scientology, or arguably some overbearing emotional abuse from any religion), as long as there's no actual harm then no one should have the right to say "you can't believe that because it offends me. It gets in the way of my daily life."

As far as I can tell there's more abuse that comes from employers then there is from church leaders. I can't speak for other religions because I don't know their situations, but at least for Christian religion there's not as much exploitation among the believers as there are exploitation among bosses who say "mandatory overtime tomorrow." Even that I wouldn't call exploitation. Church leaders on the other hand seem to care about the people in their pews. At least that's my observation.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 3:50:42 AM
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The religious had 2000 years to rewrite everything, hence their explanations always appear valid !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 7:47:40 AM
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Dear Individual,

The religious had all the time since writing began to document what works and what does not. Prior to that, knowledge was transmitted orally - religion existed before writing was invented, before humans existed, before the world was created even, there is no sense in existence otherwise.

The difficulty exists to ascertain which books/chapters were indeed written by the religious and which by cheating hypocrites.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 11:18:02 AM
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