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Religious Discrimination Act.

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To Individual.

Ruined by divorce, birth control, and dead on battle fields? That doesn't sound like religous discrimination to me. It doesn't sound like anything that religion is responsible for either. More like a scape goat excuse for each of those issues.

On the other hand I could be wrong. Why don't you say how it's ruined your life? You are including yourself in all of this aren't you? Has religion and divorce ruined you? Or are you complaining about things exaggerated? That seems to happen often in points against some religions. (Others it's not an exaggeration but is too common in that religion or another).
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 9 December 2019 2:26:05 PM
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Not_Now.Soon,
Religion interferes with the daily life of the many non-superstitious ! Why, the clear thinkers are even forced to swear on bibles & koran etc.
The buildings dedicated to superstition have money spent on them which could could help many of those they religious claim to have so much compassion for. How many poor are walking past churches every minute of the day, what help do they receive whilst some high priests enjoy undeserved adoration & respect ? How many abused children never got Justice ? How many young girls had their life ruined because some selfish gits joined up to control the lives of others ?
What have YOU done recently to help make us a more compassionate society ? Pray ??
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 7:45:31 AM
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To Individual.

I get what you're saying. Your saying you don't agree with the religions that are around. But that doesn't sound like it's discrimination to me. Whether they spend money on their buildings is not a matter of discrimination, regardless if you agree with it or not. Same goes with swearing on the bible or the Quran. That's a cultural thing basically if enough people believe in either of those two religions. But what you've described is neither an invasive thing, nor is it an exclusive discriminatory thing.

All your saying is that you don't like religion and don't think it should be as supported as it is. Not that religion has discriminated against you or against the non-believing population.

If I'm wrong and you are saying this is discrimination, then go back to examples that are discriminatory instead of just elements you don't like but are in society. People aren't going to change their lifestyle because a group of people disrespect their beliefs calling it superstitious and don't want it out in the open. That sounds like an unfair expectation that you wouldn't expect of yourself if the roles were reversed.

For example, if I disrespected your views (instead of "superstitious" let's say "godless" or "shallow" or any other negative label regardless if it's true or not); then said you should not openly be the way you are; would you then say that you are discriminating against me or the other way around? (I'd say it was rude, but has no merit on playing the victim card of discrimination).

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 5:40:44 PM
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That's basically how your perspective reads. You're being discriminated against because superstitious people are allowed to be superstitious. That's not discrimination. That's people doing their own thing, and maybe being a big enough group that it affects you too.

Here's what discrimination would look like to me. If I say you can't shop here or there because your not religious or limits your opportunities for school or specialized professions, then that would be discrimination. And that is unjustified and oppressive.

If I said you can't come into a church, mosque, or religous temple, because your not that religion, then that would be discrimination. But depending on the gathering it might be justifiable at least arguably to have gatherings of just that religion. However I think the religions that aren't welcoming are more rare then the secular counterparts that really are discriminating needing to pass x, y, and z conditions before they can be be part of that group and attend their meetings, get togethers, and fun.

More often then not I see religions are inclusive, not exclusive.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 5:44:28 PM
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Not_Now.Soon,
Very well written. However, still only mere words. My argument extends to actual evidence for all to see over generations. Yes, you did a very good job of dissecting the word discrimination yet the facts remain that Religion or rather the hypocrites who exploit Religion are discriminating against those over whom they hold control by telling them to believe something that can't at this stage not be proven to exist.
You may not call it discrimination, I do !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 7:16:24 PM
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Dear Individual,

«Religion interferes with the daily life»

I see, you may complain that your religious neighbours disturb your sleep when they start their car on Sunday morning to go to church, but then when you start your car early to go the beach, that cannot count as an interference... You know, having squeezed so many humans on our little planet, practically everyone is interfering with everyone else. Do you really think that had your neighbours not gone to church on Sunday morning, they would instead just stay quietly in bed rather than, say, mowed their loan or drilled holes in their wall for new furniture?

«the clear thinkers are even forced to swear on bibles & koran etc.»

Not in Australia.

«The buildings dedicated to superstition have money spent on them»

The biggest and most ridiculous superstition is as if entertainment and intoxication can make one truly happy. So speaking about theaters, cinemas, bars, clubs, casinos, TV stations and the like, they all have money spent or them - how about compassionately selling off these buildings and donating the proceeds to the poor?

«Religion or rather the hypocrites who exploit Religion are discriminating against those over whom they hold control»

The said hypocrites are not religious, they are pretenders.
Would I be right to blame you if someone stole your login-details here and posted atrocious things under the pen-name "Individual"?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 9:23:28 PM
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