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Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 22 November 2019 9:47:42 AM
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>>"I don't think the sunspot theory is the only answer to changes in the climate"
Good! >>"I don't think there is an 'only answer'" Then you're with the majority of climate scientists that measure many different forcings. But our CO2 and methane ARE the dominant forcings we are aware of on our planet. >>"I think its a combination of many factors that are beyond our current scientific knowledge" On what basis? A counter-theory requires some sort of evidence. Why don't you accept the 95% confidence of the IPCC? We KNOW how much heat CO2 traps: 4 Hiroshima bombs per second. That's physics. We MODEL where it goes. That's the tricky part. How much heat can our massive oceans hold without side effects on us? Etc. Where the heat goes is the trick. But their models are accurate, and getting more so every year, sharpening to the nth degree. >>"I think the TCR is closer to 1c than 2.5c but that we'll never get to a doubling of CO2 levels to find out anyway" That's what you think. I note it's got no evidence? >>"I'm not your caricature 'denialist'. Very few are." You might not be, I can grant that. But MOST are! Posted by Max Green, Friday, 22 November 2019 9:49:32 AM
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Josephus, stand by *do you understand it was JOHN HOWARD * who first subsidised solar panels?
Why do you think he did that? Do you understand we who use them never ever got that 60 cents for feedback power That we in fact [after big change] get no more than eight cents Some maintain a higher rate but not near all As I pay more than I get how is solar dearer, subsidies are constantly being removed Now what do you base your costs on A cost you ignore The cost of not taking action 38 degrees here right now, summer yet to come, fire smoke [no nearby fire yet] is making breathing a little hard climate change? you prove it is not. Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 November 2019 10:40:40 AM
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From their ABC, lunch time today: half of all bushfires are deliberately lit.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 November 2019 11:44:20 AM
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TTBN: Whether lightning strike or arsonist is not the issue.
The sheer scale of the drought and current weather conditions is! This CSIRO climate scientist knew 40 years ago that we'd be facing this around now. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/17/what-could-i-have-done-the-scientist-who-predicted-the-bushfire-emergency-four-decades-ago Also, while Coalition politicians blame city greenies, it's actually the FIRE experts saying they can't burn off during winter any more because the weather is too dry! http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/14/former-australian-fire-chiefs-say-coalition-doesnt-like-talking-about-climate-change Posted by Max Green, Friday, 22 November 2019 1:05:26 PM
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Max Green while you are aware many are not
Social media is full of the greens did it but that ignores the truth Country folk are not supporters of the greens we want to burn in winter,always have But this drought, and those that came before, make winter burns firestorms, see many that got away Yes some demand we not burn lard heads at best But you can not burn when very real fire storms are the result Yes firebugs start fires but they have dry weather and climate change making that possible Clutching at straws, looking for something to blame other than drought and climate change is not on Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 November 2019 3:01:00 PM
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WOW!! I take it that your excreta don't stink either?