/cont

"4 Hiroshima bombs per second is physics"

Oh dear Max. Show me physics papers which use the A-bomb as a unit of measurement. The background to this is that it was invented by John Cook of 97% consensus infamy. A proper scientist suggested that the level of extra warming could be explained to the public by imagining a kids night-light on each square meter of the planet. Cook vetoed that because it wasn't scary enough and invented the Hiroshima trope because it was scary to the uninitiated. He'd be please to see it worked on at least one dupe.

BTW if you want to use Hiroshima as a unit of measure...the sun hits the earth with 1000 Hiroshimas each second. But that's not physics either.

______________________________________________________
"What error?"
Are you seriously suggesting that the models haven't made errors. Eg as above, only 2 of 114 models are able to reproduce the pause. Get a chart where the models are compared and see how different they are. They can't simultaneously be right and in disagreement.

______________________________________________________
"Could you link to it please and show me what you're talking about"

http://archive.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter12_FINAL.pdf

Why did you say I had no evidence for it, when you didn't even understand what I was talking about?

Max Green my hobby is a dieing one, ham radio,we have another here who by the way is very very well respected in that hobby
We still float but do not bring in many/near any, newcomers
We before it became normal, used solar on our remote repeaters sites
I think battery storage is the key, for the present
Now I use just six batteries, and four panels, to back up my power, give both 12 and 240 volt power, and for a few hours, [longest so far 12 hours] make me blackout proof
I also feed back from another rooftop installation
One ham, now silent key[dead] ran two systems, one totally feeding back the other running every thing using massive battery storage
But yes you are right, we are not those who are dragging us in to the future
Mr O now for you.

Mr Opinion I share your view of this government
But as Albo has told us many opportunities exist in the whole renewable energy field
And right now we export gas, at a cost less than we pay for it, my view is we should reserve some of it for our use
But let them export power if they can create jobs and profit in doing it
In the end any advancement that sees profit in renewables works for me
I am spending some time [ bit anchored down car still on blocks up north]reading over seas experts on the subject
True real momentum is moving more away from the silly view the climate emergency is a fraud
Time is on our side

MHAZE doesn’t like the image of 4 Hiroshima bombs and so is calling the SEMANTICS of it propaganda. Well, as Hiroshima bombs per second are a local event, and global warming is a… well … global event, there does need to be *some* small measure of explanation that this energy is spread across the planet. But it’s still the physics! It’s still the raw brute fact of that rough amount of extra heat being trapped. So, call the terminology “4 Hiroshima bombs per second” propaganda all you want, it won’t make the FACT of that extra heat go away.

Ah, you said 'homogenisation' which explains your pre-1940 hang ups. Jennifer Marohasy much? Conspiracy theory much? Tinfoil hat much? Blargh! I thought you were not the cliché denialist? R U serious?

As for the ‘pause’ in the mid-1990s? You're not a cherrypicker as well as every other denier cliché? I mean, did you even read the basic wiki on it? You know that climate is generally discussed in 30 year blocks, right? I mean, there are micro-climate events like the famous 1998 El Nino super-spike in temperatures which threw the numbers out and made the following years look ‘flat’, even though they were hotter than normal but just not in comparison to the El Nino. But of course, we’ve beaten 1998 repeatedly in the last decade. 30 year trends, buddy, 30 year trends. Say that 3 times as you click your ruby slippers together, instead of the usual “There’s no climate change! There’s no climate change!” Because your slippers won’t be taking you back to Kanzas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus

Dear Belly,

The politicians have sold ALL of Australia's major gas reserves to China leaving virtually nothing for us or our descendants.

There will not be many jobs created by the proposed Tennant Creek solar plant. What jobs there are will probably go to Chinese migrant workers who do a crap job and then disappear into Chinese communities in the big cities instead of returning to China.

When people start relinquishing their farms because of ongoing drought ScuMo and Co will send in the Chinese gas fracking companies to suck gas from the ground for export to China. I can just see ScuMo rubbing his hands together already counting the cash he will be stuffing into his pockets. They don't call him ScuMo for nothing!

Hi Belly,
I love the idea of renewables but they have some pretty staggering problems, unreliability being the primary one. It's not just that storage is orders of magnitude too expensive to make them viable, it's that the EROEI of the overall system is too low. Nukes have an EROEI of about 60, and that includes the energetically expensive process of mining and refining all that uranium in a once-through fuel cycle. Breeders that then eat the nuclear waste may have EROEI's in the HUNDREDS!