Dear mhaze,

All you need to know is that you have a $1 brain.

Voting should definitely not be compulsory if this discussion is anything to go by !

Oh, and Dear Mhaze,

"Welcome back, Max. Nice to see you've decided to stick your head above the parapet again. Better luck this time."
This bit was particularly presumptuous and not a little narcissistic! I didn't leave because of your pot shots at me, nor do I require any luck. I'm not a climate scientist and don't pretend to be one. I'm just occasionally fascinated — kind of out of sheer morbid curiosity — at how utterly awful it is to watch people struggle to convince themselves that global warming isn't real, despite the best of modern science. It's like a train wreck, horrible but somehow fascinating to watch. For instance, your recent "Aha, gotchya!" moment about CO2 interacting with water vapour. Like, really? Is that the best you've got? No, I'm not sticking my head 'above the parapet'. Rather, I'm kind of poking a stick in a cess pool to see what will float to the top. Sometime soon I'll remember I have a life, am working and running a business and studying on the side, have 2 young adult kids, and will eventually get bored of the cess pool... especially this one. It's just a bit too daft, you see?

Dear Max Green,

Totally agree. The $1 brains can wear one out. Apparently a lot of climatologists have become so put off by the denialists that they have given up altogether. Best idea is to take a break when they all become to much.

Hi Mr Opinion,
They don't really become "too much" as just plain get boring. There's only so many times you can hear the fools sing from the same tired old debunked Denialist hymn book. Already I've bumped into "It's the sun" and "It's water vapour" and "the predictions so far have failed." All dime a dozen. All cheap. All old and debunked and repeated religiously by the denialist dogma. They assert them with all the zeal of Dorothy clicking her ruby slippers together, but no matter how many times they click, the planet keeps heating.

And if I'm not wrong, a Young Earth Creationist lurks here, wanting to stamp out any flames of climate science because it might indicate a world older than 10,000 years. Seriously? In a land where most Australian Anglican ministers are taught at Moore Theological College that the Genre of Genesis is an ancient *literary* theological narrative rebuking the *theology* of the Babylonian Enuma Elish and even Egyptian creation myths, not ever intended to be a *literal* narrative! "Runner" should read the following, and give up his fear of an old earth and his fear of climate science. This is written by Dr John Dickson, now famous for his "Undeceptions" podcast. Runner, you're welcome.
http://www.iscast.org/journal/articlespage/Dickson_J_2008-03_Genesis_Of_Everything

In the meantime, Josephus still has to get back to us about the raw physics of CO2 repeatable in any decent physics lab on the planet. You don't even have to have a proper Fourier Device to test it. What say you Josephus? Got an answer for that one yet?

Hi Max Green,

Don't despair, I for one totally agree with your line of argument on this topic. Along with Mr O there are a few on here who articulate a reasoned argument on most topics, Foxy and Steele can always be relied upon to show up the lunatic fringe for what they are. Good old Belly always makes a worthwhile contribution to the debate, along with a few others from time to time.

Unfortunately over the years the forum has lost many of its good contributors due to unchecked abuse from the decrepit (average age 97) Ratbag Right faction, and the Fundo Christian Haters, we have several of them on here.

My forum buddies above, I can tell are very nice people, and tend not to return fire when abused by the ratbag brigade. For myself that's not the case, I can give as good as I get, my suspension record will testify to that. I tell the good folk, as I am telling you, when the ratbags open up with abuse, apply the 'Armadillo Principle', it works for me, I hope it would work for you.