Dear mhaze,

I'm so glad you're back. And that by the sound of it
you're doing well. I'm looking forward to more
fencing with you. You are a challenge - but well
worth it. (smile). And besides, you've taught me a
great deal.

Take care.

Dear mhaze,

I think you would agree with me when I say that the reason you and I do not agree with anything is because you and I have absolutely nothing in common.

mhaze,

I'm glad you have the energy to put people right on ancient Greek democracy misunderstanding. I can't be bothered anymore.

This thread, like most others, has denigrated into a lot of pointless arguing totalling divorced from the subject of 'putting democracy/politics in their place'.

Graham Young gave us the opportunity to read a book by a modern philosopher on a matter important to all of us. There is no evidence that the opportunity has been taken up, given the irrelevant rambling and petty arguing that has followed.

I am halfway through the book; it contains enlightening, and alarming, information on how and why we are screwing things up. All sorts of negative things about America are bruited about, but it's the only place in the Anglosphere where there are useful academics who are genuinely concerned about democracy, the West and our survival. The rest of the West, including Australia, either never had the interest or have thrown in the towel

ttbn, For those of us who do not read books can you please give us a brief overview of the outline of the thesis.

Josephus,

Why on earth would I waste my time on people who do not read books? People who don't read are not interested in learning.

Unfortunately with today's advanced technology there's
many people who no longer rely on books for their
information. This is particularly a growing trend with
our young people - which is very concerning. I try to
give age-appropriate books to my grand-kids in an attempt
to encourage them to read. I've also read them stories
from a very young age and got them involved in Story-Times
at their local libraries.

As a result, they do have their favourite books -and fingers-
crossed this interest in reading will continue.