Paul1405 and Josephus,

I want to say that I think Paul's right when he says Jewish conspiracy theories are associated with the far right.
But I also think Josephus is also right when he says support of Israel is generally associated with the right.

It's a tricky thing, and there is a crossover.
I think the issues why the right is generally supportive of Israel are freedom of religion, nationalism and the right to defend one's home and property;
- a large block of support of the right comes from from Christian Zionists.

(As opposed to the left - who support liberal and progressive agendas, immigrants and open borders)

But not all who identify as conservative support Israel.

The crossover point is here with Christians who don't support Israel.
'Trunews'

Nov 5, 2019 Transfer Agreement: How Hitler Armed Zionists to Conquer Palestine
http://youtu.be/U4vzR5OT3qY

If I entertain Jewish conspiracy stuff - this more or places me into a category of the far-right by default;
But that doesn't necessarily mean I support white supremacist ideology;

There are many just on the normal left now whose beliefs are arguably far more radical than mine.

And being more on the side of conservatives than progressives
(I dislike progressive ideology because I think they're fools helping the globalist agenda) doesn't necessarily mean I support all religious points of view.

I'm my own person, I argue issues on their own merits and I don't particularly like any of the gang mentality.

Thanks for the welcome back Foxy.

Procedure wasn't as successful as hoped but not as bad as feared. Still above ground and I am starting a whole new research programme (teaching myself HTML and Visual basic for Apps) so in my mind I obviously expect to be around for a while yet.

But my typing fingers (all two of them) are in fine fettle, so beware (grin!).

eg Mr O writes "[The Athenians] had a true democracy in which citizens took turns in running the State". That's utter rubbish. The Athenians had some positions selected by lot - not rotation - but all the important posts were elected. Pericles, for example, occupied one of the top posts for 30 odd years and basically ran Athenian policy for all that time. So utter rubbish. But then pretty much Mr O's entire output is utter rubbish.

Thinking a little more about the issue at hand, just a few other points.

In the 1970s, there was a weekly newspaper called The National Times. Certainly the finest paper I've ever read. They used to have a system on important issues where competing views were aired side by side. Not people shouting at each other, but sober written argument. One person would put their view, generally getting a full page to provide all the detailed argument needed. Side by side others would put counter-views, equally lavishly detailed. Then each side would be given the chance to critique the other's points. The end result was a thorough canvassing of the issue with the paper taking no side and the reader fully informed or informed enough to do follow-up research.

Such a system would probably not work now. People aren't prepared to hear the other side and, since most people are now visual rather than literate, it would need to be done on-screen with the inevitable shouting match occurring. sigh

I still feel the solution is better education, or different education. Education that encouraged open research rather than blind adherence to the shibboleths of the day. But I have no idea how to get there from here.

Paul, I have Orthodox Jewish relatives so how can I hate my brothers children. They have inherited their Judaism from their mother. Learn true Christians in Europe and England assisted Jews escape the Roman Catholic hate inherent in Nazi views of Jews. The Nazi German war against England and the Continent was Roman Catholicism influenced of Nazi's fight against other religions including Christian England. My Scottish English wife is a product of loosing her father to Nazi bombings.

Josephus

"It is the left that now promotes hatred of Jews" Can you prove this?

You may consider me to be of the left, and although I believe the Israeli state is guilty of criminal acts against the Palestinian people, and dare say some sections of the Palestinian movement are also guilty of criminal acts against the Israelis. I do not promote hatred of Jews as a consequence.

Much hatred for the Jews sprang from what was known as replacement theology where sections of the 'church' wrongly thought they were the new Jews and that God was finished with those who rejected the Messiah.

By and large the most hatred now comes from the left of politics. They can see clearly that the God of Israel has fulfilled a number of prophecies by again bringing the Jews from all nations back home before His second return. Any rational person can see this regathering has never happened to another nation in history. It is yet another of the myriads of evidence of the God of Israel being the One true God. That is the thing the left hate the most although they hide behind the mask of concern for the made up Palestinian state. They have no rational reason for their hatred of Israel. History shows Jerusalem has been the spiritual home of the Jews for many centuries. Mohammed himself never visited Jerusalem except in some made up vision. The sort of science the left use to act out violence in the name of climate emergency. You know just ask Greta.

mhaze is right. After all he has degrees in history.