Of course the climate is changing, & that is just as well for us. Remember it was once just a mass of semi molten muck. It will always change, & does not require any change in CO2 to do it.

I don't want to be unpleasant Not_Now.Soon, but have you ever been out of a city. I have to doubt it if you are worried about the "pollution" of man visiting anywhere in the bush. Stop worrying, the bush will be the same in 50 years regardless.

For example, have you ever heard of Torbanlea, or Burrum or Howard. The district was once the head of Queensland rail, as it was Queensland's major source of coal in the 1860s. There were 7 underground coal mines, & later a large power house. Railway lines crisscrossed the district running to these mines. Try to find one today.

Each mine had hundreds of acres of forest to harvest timber for pit props. Some was selectively harvested, but most was clear felled. A mate of mine bought 640 acres, [a square mile block], of the clear felled stuff in 1980. It was totally indistinguishable from adjacent totally untouched blocks, apart from the fact the trees that grew on clear felled areas grew straight & tall, competing for light.

He spent 4 years clearing 250 acres of this, earning a good living selling the logs for telegraph polls to the local coppers Logs factory.

It is not nature that is fragile, but the productions of man, & anyone who believes otherwise is a fool, has an objective they are pushing, or has never left a city.

m haze it is the links to why, I consider a failure, read again the posts
Yes most of us think the climate is changing my question was never why
I wanted to see the expected results positive and negative
Wanted to avoid even my own view as to why
It helps to know most agree it is changing
We need to think what are the implications
Not [in this thread at least] why it is changing
Hope that clears it up

Belly.

I think that the real and present danger is from bad government, not climate change. Look how fast bad government took Venezuela from South America's most prosperous country to one of the worst places to live on Earth. Why destroy our present on the basis of a prediction of what Earth might be like in eighty years?

I loved watching Greta Thunberg's scathing attack on the environmental criminals of the world at the UN yesterday. She hit the nail on head when she explained the reasons why humans are destroying the planet. Unfortunately her message mostly fell on deaf ears. The human race is inextricably locked into a system driven by global consumerism that cannot be stopped and will be the cause of the collapse of our global civilization.

'I loved watching Greta Thunberg's scathing attack on the environmental criminals of the world at the UN yesterday'

says Mr Opinion from the comforts and higher life expectancy that have been derived by mining. We know you love haters Mr Opinion and are happy to see young girls used and exploited by lying Marxist.

Dear runner,

You are one of the people Greta Thungerg was attacking in her address to the UN.