Loudmouth you try this
What if any do you claim is the number in the future that will be enough humans on this planet
Is there any links to population and how many the planet can feed house carry
Can constant growth be a forever thing
IT REMAINS my view we know we can only run so many cattle in a paddock
We know some times that number can increase or decrease because of feed available
And like it or not parts of the world see paddocks needing a spell, re purpose

Belly,

There are two aspects to population growth:

* . births: the annual number of births around the world is levelling off, and will plateau for a generation or so from now, before declining;

* . deaths: when people don't die, they keep living, so they're counted as part of the population: the more that people live longer, the more of them are counted With medical advances, the number of deaths declines, life expectancy is longer, so the proportion of the population who are older people grows - at least until the oldest reach a sort of 'natural' limit, and then they (we, you and I) die.

We are about to enter a time when birth numbers don't increase, but life expectancy increases, so population increases. When that 'natural' limit of life expectancy is reached, maybe in two generations, then the overall population will decline.

So the world population will keep rising, at slowing rates, then it will level off and then slowly decline.

As for technology, and the capacity of the world to produce enough food by developing techniques to improve production increases, food production will easily keep up with population growth, while population grows. Once population levels off and then declines, the availability of food will become a quaint memory of history.

Joe

Loudmouth you have highlighted those points often, never needed to, I agree with them
I however do not even get close to seeing a world the population is not growing in
IF we could stop treating the need for true useful aid as an illness, give it freely
We would as a by product see much higher birth rates
We will never see, without war famine or dreadful illness, see population growth stall for good
In fact even my plea, for control, will not come without great effort
But it must come, will come
We can only hope its control is in good and trusted hands

Belly,

Please have a good look at this chart:

http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/historic-and-un-pop-projections-by-age

You can move the cursor up to 2100. If you do, notice that the number of births between now and the year 2100 barely increases. The number of people under 15 barely increases. The number of people under 25 increases in those eighty years by only 170 million.

But the number of people over 65 increases by more than three times. If there's a problem with population growth, it's us old fellas, you and me. Not babies. Not young people.

Don't worry about world food production, that's simply not a problem. Looking after old people like us will be the problem. Of course, people our age will be a lot healthier and more active in 2100, that's why they'll be living longer. So maybe we won't be that much of a problem.

Joe

You have a point Loudmouth and I have always seen it and agreed
We in the end can not agree
I think we however have got away from the view my thoughts are based on racism
Even my view one humanity one world is, after great pain, a better out come
BUT afraid it would not be tax free
IF it took place it would unfortunately be by force
We humans let rich self interested rule us, by our neglect to remain informed about politics
So sadly, we one day face great pain, even forgetting population, we face forced rule
Pain for sure even Chinese style rejecmentation in my view