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Belly,

You can't divorce questions as to likely consequences from the questions as to the cause of the current climate changes.

The consequences are utterly dependent on the causes.

You, believing the CO2 story, assume the warming will continue. Therefore you see growing problems as per the worst of the alarmists.

That's only true if the cause for the warming is CO2.

BUT, if the warming is natural, then the consequences are likely to be very different. If its natural then the warming will either be mild and/or will reverse at some point. Indeed many of those in the natural camp, think the reversal of the late 20th century warming has already began, and, therefore, the consequences will be those associated with a cooling planet.

To draw a rather weak analogy...you want to discuss the consequences of a couple having unprotected sex while trying to ignore issues as to whether the bloke's had a vasectomy.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 26 September 2019 1:34:18 PM
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Just saw the 'Australian'headline "Greta Thunberg Phenomenon". This is so typical of the Media. Using the wrong words to distort fact. There is no Greta Thunberg Phenomenon, merely a Greta Thunberg hype !.
She'll make a few people very wealthy, petroleum products n'all !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 26 September 2019 1:45:35 PM
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OK tried but it never got off the ground I refuse to believe any difference exists in impacts if it is or is not man made or natural climate change
Stand by for another record breaking hot summer
The worst east coast bush fires in our nations known history
Both, with no impact on why, are about to hit us because, not because of man made but because of change
We have always lost coast lines and it will continue
But increase in ocean height and more bigger storms will see more
Man made or not the results are clear
We will see sea creatures in areas we did not once see grow food in places we once would not try
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 26 September 2019 3:32:07 PM
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Hey Belly,
Sometimes I fight for one side of the argument;
But then people can move too far to side of the argument I support;
- And then I feel like I have to jump ship to push it back the other way, to keep things balanced.

This is one of those times;

Usually my comments regarding climate change are well...
- Not at all supporting of the climate change agenda -
I think it's all part of a greater plan for globalism.

But that said, I won't ignore arguments that hold merit.

Quote "I refuse to believe any difference exists in impacts if it is or is not man made or natural climate change"
"Both, with no impact on why, are about to hit us because, not because of man made but because of change"

One argument that holds merit I can't ignore is:

Don't think we humans aren't capable of taking a few bulldozers through a rainforest and turning it into deserts,
- Because we are.

Don't think we're not capable of pumping waste into the ocean and destroying fish breeding habitats;
which has an effect on bird populations etc; and stuffing up the whole food chain;
- Because we are.

- And now I shall return to my usual 'anti-climate-change' position -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 26 September 2019 5:19:59 PM
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Record bush fires, record water shortage etc. Why does no-one mention record population, record water usage, record arsen etc ?
There are no records broken, only records created by too many people being too stupid = selfish !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 26 September 2019 5:23:29 PM
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Individual indeed however I have often
In fact think over population is part of the reason we see climate change
Arm Chair Critic, they will think we are mad!
But you are on to something here
We know that secretive group I can not spell, the one of the very rich holding meetings we know nothing of exist
Some will never understand the whole history of western man has had powerful people behind the scenes pulling the strings
Closed minds help them pull the wool over all our eyes
Find that American monument, the one claiming a future world population will be far less than in one Australian city
Explain its mantra to me, tell me such a group could not be out to divide us so when it offers Dictatorship to solve hunger and war we will not say better than what we have?
Keep your mind open, never let the planted idiotic conspiracy's blind you to the very real ones
Posted by Belly, Friday, 27 September 2019 6:43:35 AM
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