Dear HenryL,

“Australia’s rainforests are typically characterised by high rainfall, lush growth and closed canopies. They rarely experience fire, and generally contain no eucalypts or only the occasional individual eucalypt tree emerging from the rainforest canopy.”

Binna Burra Lodge

“The heritage-listed main lodge was built in 1933. It has never before been seriously threatened by bushfire, protected in part by lush and damp surroundings that typically suppress the progress of dangerous fires. “

“Queensland’s former fire commissioner says an erratic bushfire front that climbed into the state’s subtropical rainforest and razed the 86-year-old Binna Burra Lodge is “like nothing we’ve ever seen before”.
“What we’re seeing, it’s just not within people’s imagination,” said Lee Johnson, who spent 12 years in charge of Queensland’s fire service.”

The Binna Burra Lodge chairman says;

Quote;

Noakes said the situation was “a signal to us that we need to take a more proactive approach to climate change”.

“We need to know more about the impact of climate change on subtropical rainforests of Australia and what that means in terms of long-term infrastructure. That’s why people come to Queensland, to experience these places.”

He said Binna Burra would be rebuilt in a way that took into account the likely impacts of climate change.

“Binna Burra is 86 years old. When we position and design and build and operate tourism infrastructure in these sorts of natural environments, we have to think about 50 or 100 years ahead and what changes climate impacts are going to have on the built infrastructure.

“Our responsibility now is to have a vision that is crafted of the knowledge and the understanding of the climate as it will impact on the tropical and subtropical rainforest.”

End quote.

Are you really going to tell this bloke he is the idiot and not to bother and will your politics on this issue over ride any notion of commonsense from you?

By the way, the 1939 fires were in Victoria and in January. It is early bloody September and in SE Queensland. Why did you even go there?

Dear Steelie,

This is certainly frightening - and it should be
heeded. I remember visiting the lodge years ago.
A most beautiful place it was.

Steps must be taken to care for these places.
Definitely. It's our heritage and that of our
children's and grand-children's.

Dear SteeleRedux,

You are spot on! These severe unseasonal weather patterns that are causing these fires are exactly what climatologists have been saying would be the consequence of global warming. And I think that even the climatologists are surprised that it is happening a lot earlier then predicted.

But don't worry, Hasbeen, mhaze, runner, individual, Loudmouth, etc, can sit back, put their feet up and say 'Don't worry mate, nothing's going on, it's all in your imagination.'

Misopinionated,

So here's a question for you, to totally crush the denialists, such as (you suggest) myself:

* . has annual average world temperature gone up more than half a degree in the last eighty years, and has sea-level risen more than an inch in that time ?

Convert us :)

Taking into account the urban heat-island effect, generated by more dark surfaces (i.e. less albedo), more asphalt and vast amounts of air-conditioning, what proportion of that increase in temperature is due solely to increases in CO2, not methane or water vapour, or sun-spots, etc. ?

Okay, that's three questions. From your towering position overlooking society and all its post-Enlightenment evils, can you give us a clue ?

God, who knew that environmental biology was the spring from which all true knowledge flows ? Jesus, now you'll declare me to be a creationist. Oops, doubly so. Bugger.

So a Catholic apologist as well.

Joe

Steelredux has been dumped on
BUT surely every single one who did so is a full on HYPOCRITE?
Look first at your post history, your own post history
I question what went wrong in my absence, yes we [me too] always got a bit heated
But right now bitter old men sling insults at anyone who does not share their opinions
This part of OLO maybe in its death roll
We tend to drive newcomers away, and entrench our views as
the only ones that should be see here
Fact is even if from a left source today, this day, a research mob has said [and the figures are true] 80 percent of Australians want more action on climate change
Tell me, prove to me, the climate is not changing, man made or not it clearly is

I am unsure if I will be around this time next year
But know as fact by then we will clearly see from this point till winter returns this country will face a fire session so bad it will make past bad years look like a camp fire
We are being told not to expect rain for four months
Water carters just 40 klm from the sea, are running 18 hours a day to fill homes empty tanks and orders are two weeks waiting .
Never seen before and the climate is not changing?