Have a thought for the mostly volunteers fighting our bushfires, & those suffering from them. They are struggling with the longest period of strong hot winds I have experienced in 28 years here.

This has so far been the driest year on record in much of south eastern Queensland, with records in many areas going back to 1890s.

We were discussing our fire plan the other day, & feel pretty safe. There is no grass longer than a couple of inches in hundreds of metres of my place, & almost any area grazed is mostly similar. There are also no thick stands of trees capable of carrying a crown fire. With the fire pump set up on the swimming pool, the big diesel on the dam, & little to burn, we should be OK.

With poor grass growth due to the drought, many areas have little to burn. It is mostly growth from a couple of years ago that is fuelling these fires. I can understand the attraction of that "home among the gum trees", but it is a very silly place to have your home. Even worse if you have a national park as a neighbour or nearby.

The incredibly poor maintenance of our parks, & an ideology wanting to keep thick impenetrable scrub in them is fostering much of these fires. That allows fires to become huge, before they come racing out into private property.

Will we ever learn that gum trees are dangerous things, that have no place close to homes.

What a piss poor passing the buck post from you old cock.

When your top firefighters in the state say this is linked to climate change, that this kind of threat level this early in the season is unprecedented, and the record temperatures and dry conditions are in lock step with global warming predictions yet here you are blaming bloody gum trees and national parks?

You are so deep in denial that it makes my head spin. What level does it take for you to have any doubts that global warming is according to you a crock? Will it take your own home burning to the ground bugger everyone elses?

This isn't going to go away now and is likely to get a lot worse. We should be doing our bit as a country but pigheaded people led through the nose by mining interests have stymied action.

God some people are thick.

'We should be doing our bit as a country but pigheaded people led through the nose by mining interests have stymied actio'

says another hypocrite using mining products everyday and actually have a longer life expectancy than many before. You need to stop preaching your fake faith Steelie. Its pathetic.

Dear runner,

No mate, I look at the future of this country with regard to the increasing threat of bushfires and of extremes of droughts and think of those who will have their lives irrevocably changed by loss of homes and even loved ones.

I do not think of runner selfishly sitting there in safety sipping his vinegar tea and spouting his sour little missives to anyone who can be bothered to listen.

'
No mate, I look at the future of this country with regard to the increasing threat of bushfires and of extreme s of droughts and think of those who will have their lives irrevocably changed by loss of homes and even loved ones.'

well Steelie even if that was true (which I doubt) killing our mining and coal will make absolutely no difference. If it did the warmist would not have to make up multiple lies and act totally deceitfully like they have over the last 20 or 30 years. They would also be protesting the thousands of new coal fired stations being built in China. Even you should be able to comprehend that rather than your continual virtue signalling. I wonder how Megan's latest flight to watch her sister Serena play tennis in the US has contributed to the QLD bushfires. That's about as credible as the nonsense you sprout.

Time to grow up a bit SR. Your bulldust is out of date.

You surely don't believe our top fire fighting management more than we believed the ratbags & girls running the Victorian bunch when they killed lots, & destroyed whole towns.

I'm sure you know all about nothing in this as most things. I wonder if being an apologist for incompetent bureaucrats wins you brownie points?

"What a piss poor passing the buck post from you old cock".

What a rude, ignorant and totally unwarranted attack. Disgusting! But what we have come to expect from SR. Nothing Hasbeen said could possibly warrant that outburst.

Everytime someone responds to this awful person, he is encouraged to come back with something worse. His only interest in being here is to sneer, snarl and try to put other posters down.

As for his climate change theory of bushfires, even the IPCC denies that climate change has anything to do with severe weather events

Dear SteeleRedux,

Hasbeen, ttbn, runner and their right-wing conservative know-all-know-nothing wannabe global warming denialist mates are only interested in keeping the LNP in power and looking at the value of their shares in the coal and gas mining industry. They would sell you out to China as quick as look at you if it meant a few extra dollars in their pocket from digging up more coal and gas. It's all about political ideology and greed. That is what's driving them. Not science!

They can see what is happening with extreme droughts, bushfires, dying rivers, etc., but they just don't care. Their happy just as long as they can keep stuffing money into their pockets and damn the rest! And they present us with a pseudo-science in order to get people to vote for the LNP instead of what they see as socialist political parties which are driven by so-called false teachings in the universities. I really wonder if they actually take their own BS seriously because I ask myself could anyone really be that ignorant and uncaring about other people and the world we all have to share.

Hasbeen NSW is suffering too, and the fires are worse than ever
I was for 30 plus years a bush fire fighter, now still drive in to forests camera in hand, to take photos of stag horns elks and orchids in place
Never ever seen the bush so deep in dead waste
We are about, believe me,to have this country's worst ever fires
Climate change driven, drought driven
And the white collar fools driven
We burned in winter, every winter, paper work, driven by tree changers who are anti burn off, is gong to be a contributor to this coming AWFUL fire year
And every fire bug, [never served in a brigade that did not have one] must know they could murder people and should be charged that way

The world would be a boring place without different opinions; but undisguised malice, personal bitterness and consequent aggression against others should not be dignified with the description 'opinion'.

And, the lack of communication skills displayed by those who insult people in their opening sentence is laughable, if they are trying to convince those people of their point of view.

But, perhaps they don't want to persuade; perhaps they are railing against their meaningless little lives by venting their spleens against any people who put their heads up.

For heaven's sake. Hasbeen was just describing things in his part of the world; far more accurately, I would think, than the TV news, with their footage from archives from last year's fires or the ones before that.

Aggressive, nasty posters should sign up with a gym, and take out their problems on a punching bag. On second thoughts, get their own bags; they are not socialised enough to be mixing with other people.

personally I think the warmist fraudsters should use superglue to seal their lips rather than glueing hands to the road. Their fake compassion is nothing short of sickening.

Dear Hasbeen,

You conspiratorially proclaim; “You surely don't believe our top fire fighting management more than we believed the ratbags & girls running the Victorian bunch when they killed lots, & destroyed whole towns.”

Well the number of people who seem to be prepared to lie to you has reached biblical proportions hasn't it.

But there is a degree of poetry in your situation although I can't quite put my finger on it.. .. ..

Ah yes 'A boy stood on the burning deck' is probably it;

A boy stood on the burning deck,
A pocket full of crackers,
A spark flew up his trouser leg,
And blew off both his knackers

If you don't know it is a poem which perfectly captures the notions of idiocy and denial.

Just a question if I may, given these are UNPRECEDENTED conditions for so early in the season if they were to happen again within the next few years at an even earlier date would that give you pause for thought or are you going to take your denialist mindset to your grave?

Also why is it the fault of gumtrees and national parks for southern Queensland experiencing UNPRECEDENTED conditions?

' UNPRECEDENTED conditions?'

OH such alsrmism. 'UNPREDENTED'. Of course forget about huge fires in August in the 1950's. Steelie just loves headlines that support the warmist religion narrative no matter how false. Ever thought of getting a job with the lying liberal media? I thought you might of travelled to New York to support the other 20 people with Greta for her protest against coal etc. Problem was it was to cold and wet for the warmist to show up. They needed to stay inside and enjoy the benefits that mining and coal has brought them. You are a joke Steelie.

Dear runner,

Yet again I get to call you out on your bulldust.

What large fire occurred in South East Queensland in August in the 1950s?

There wasn't one was there.

Hasbeen,
From a bloke that has had 50+ years bush fire experience and has held many positions, I think your assessment of the situation in SE Queensland is spot on.

There is only low risk in open grassland as there is little fuel. The danger is almost entirely with people that have a bush block and built a home with minimum disturbance to the natural bush. Everyone should know that if you have bush, sooner or later it will burn when conditions are right for that area. But one cannot fix stupidity. These people are a hazard to themselves and others in their area. Our fire fighters put themselves at risk protecting these idiots from themselves. There is heaps of information and equipment to minimize the fire risk to homes if people care to use it.

Then on top of this we have some climate change nutters that blame fires on their religious bent of global warming, like SR and Opinionated, when people are at fault because they ignore the fact that they reside in a high risk enviroment.

History has shown that the worst fires ever was in 1939, well before some dills came up with global warming. Homes in the bush have always been at risk and made more so with minimal clearing and evacuation

I'm watching these fires with dread.

My son and his family are due to fly out to
Noosa from Melbourne on the 17th September
for a holiday-break.
They've booked their plane tickets and accomodation.
And were really looking forward to this holiday.

I wonder if they'll still be able to go?
My son's looking into the situation today. He hasn't
had a break from work in ages.

On this morning's news - I heard that police are looking
in to teens - who they suspect have contributed to
these fires. I hope they're wrong.

Dear Foxy,

It looks like the entire Sunshine Coast is virtually a disaster area so I think your son might definitely be affected. I haven't been up there for years but from memory I think there was only one way in, one way out of Noosa.

I just saw on ABC news that a major study is showing that 80% of Australians believe they are affected by global warming and its consequential climate change. It's now looking like our right-wing conservative LNP voting GW denialists have been relegated to the minority. But I suppose as usual that news will fall on deaf ears as usual, just as long as it doesn't affect their hip pocket.

Dear Mr Opinion,

Thank You for that information.

I think you're right as far as my son's
trip to Noosa is concerned. Perhaps he
can choose a better alternative this time,
and leave the Sunshine Coast for another
time.

Dear HenryL,

“Australia’s rainforests are typically characterised by high rainfall, lush growth and closed canopies. They rarely experience fire, and generally contain no eucalypts or only the occasional individual eucalypt tree emerging from the rainforest canopy.”

Binna Burra Lodge

“The heritage-listed main lodge was built in 1933. It has never before been seriously threatened by bushfire, protected in part by lush and damp surroundings that typically suppress the progress of dangerous fires. “

“Queensland’s former fire commissioner says an erratic bushfire front that climbed into the state’s subtropical rainforest and razed the 86-year-old Binna Burra Lodge is “like nothing we’ve ever seen before”.
“What we’re seeing, it’s just not within people’s imagination,” said Lee Johnson, who spent 12 years in charge of Queensland’s fire service.”

The Binna Burra Lodge chairman says;

Quote;

Noakes said the situation was “a signal to us that we need to take a more proactive approach to climate change”.

“We need to know more about the impact of climate change on subtropical rainforests of Australia and what that means in terms of long-term infrastructure. That’s why people come to Queensland, to experience these places.”

He said Binna Burra would be rebuilt in a way that took into account the likely impacts of climate change.

“Binna Burra is 86 years old. When we position and design and build and operate tourism infrastructure in these sorts of natural environments, we have to think about 50 or 100 years ahead and what changes climate impacts are going to have on the built infrastructure.

“Our responsibility now is to have a vision that is crafted of the knowledge and the understanding of the climate as it will impact on the tropical and subtropical rainforest.”

End quote.

Are you really going to tell this bloke he is the idiot and not to bother and will your politics on this issue over ride any notion of commonsense from you?

By the way, the 1939 fires were in Victoria and in January. It is early bloody September and in SE Queensland. Why did you even go there?

Dear Steelie,

This is certainly frightening - and it should be
heeded. I remember visiting the lodge years ago.
A most beautiful place it was.

Steps must be taken to care for these places.
Definitely. It's our heritage and that of our
children's and grand-children's.

Dear SteeleRedux,

You are spot on! These severe unseasonal weather patterns that are causing these fires are exactly what climatologists have been saying would be the consequence of global warming. And I think that even the climatologists are surprised that it is happening a lot earlier then predicted.

But don't worry, Hasbeen, mhaze, runner, individual, Loudmouth, etc, can sit back, put their feet up and say 'Don't worry mate, nothing's going on, it's all in your imagination.'

Misopinionated,

So here's a question for you, to totally crush the denialists, such as (you suggest) myself:

* . has annual average world temperature gone up more than half a degree in the last eighty years, and has sea-level risen more than an inch in that time ?

Convert us :)

Taking into account the urban heat-island effect, generated by more dark surfaces (i.e. less albedo), more asphalt and vast amounts of air-conditioning, what proportion of that increase in temperature is due solely to increases in CO2, not methane or water vapour, or sun-spots, etc. ?

Okay, that's three questions. From your towering position overlooking society and all its post-Enlightenment evils, can you give us a clue ?

God, who knew that environmental biology was the spring from which all true knowledge flows ? Jesus, now you'll declare me to be a creationist. Oops, doubly so. Bugger.

So a Catholic apologist as well.

Joe

Steelredux has been dumped on
BUT surely every single one who did so is a full on HYPOCRITE?
Look first at your post history, your own post history
I question what went wrong in my absence, yes we [me too] always got a bit heated
But right now bitter old men sling insults at anyone who does not share their opinions
This part of OLO maybe in its death roll
We tend to drive newcomers away, and entrench our views as
the only ones that should be see here
Fact is even if from a left source today, this day, a research mob has said [and the figures are true] 80 percent of Australians want more action on climate change
Tell me, prove to me, the climate is not changing, man made or not it clearly is

I am unsure if I will be around this time next year
But know as fact by then we will clearly see from this point till winter returns this country will face a fire session so bad it will make past bad years look like a camp fire
We are being told not to expect rain for four months
Water carters just 40 klm from the sea, are running 18 hours a day to fill homes empty tanks and orders are two weeks waiting .
Never seen before and the climate is not changing?

Dear Loudmouth,

How many times do I have to tell you that I am a sociologist, not a scientist! I study people and their societies, not the physical world. The bad news for you is that I study people like you to find out what you think and do, especially in relation to environmental issues.

'Dear runner,

Yet again I get to call you out on your bulldust.

What large fire occurred in South East Queensland in August in the 1950s?

There wasn't one was there.'

don't let facts get in the way of your faith narrative Steelie.

https://www.4bc.com.au/1950s-articles-show-severe-bushfires-are-not-a-new-phenomenon/

quite ironic that thew gw faith brigade go on about how well informed the young generation are. Now we learn these fires on the sunshine coast were lit by teenagers. I suspect strongly by kids of 'liberal' parents. The Greens should really stop trying to politicise and win points on other people's misfortunes which often turn out to be the fault of the lefties.

Dear runner,

Goodness gracious, I never knew you were so apolitical. And I here I am thinking all this time that you were a right-wing conservative LNP voter. Wonders will never cease.

Foxy,
You are panicking a bit early, your son does not leave for a week.

I just spoke to a niece that lives on the sunshine coast and she said that there are a couple of roads closed and some people evacuated from houses and one house lost, but the threat is mainly to houses in bush settings.

Holiday makers usually stay in city areas so it probably will not affect him, unless he intends to camp. If the airport is closed , for smoke, surely they can divert to Brisbane and then bus or train up.

As I said it is a week away and most should be under control by then. Apparently they have a lot of help in water bombers and interstate fire fighters to relieve the local blokes. All should be OK by then.

God these warmists are disgusting. Two years ago we had a very wet year. Here it culminated in the biggest flood in living memory. Of course the warmists claimed it to push their scam. There is much evidence larger floods, but they pretend not to see that.

This year is very dry, so of course the warmists claim this as evidence to support the same scam.Next year will probably be normal, so they will have to invent something like coral bleaching to push their dirty scam.

It is the excellent growth of that rainy season that is now fueling this years fires. That year being so wet offered a perfect year to burn much of the accumulated litter that is now fueling these fires safely, but greenie pressure prevented that. Now many others are suffering, while the greenflies in their inner city high rise enjoy the show, & shout climate change.

One site idiot says, "why blame gum trees?" I didn't realise there were any so ill informed in Oz that they did not understand the association of our gums a fire. It seems many Ozzies are even dumber than we ever thought.

Dear HenryL.,

I'll be speaking to my son this evening and will
find out what he's been told.

He's pre-booked everything - so I'm not sure how
that will pan out. They'll not be camping out,
but staying in hotels. Anyway, I'll find out tonight
what he's been advised to do. As you point out -
it's still a week away.

just imagine a tenth of the money that has been wasted on this gw fraudulent faith had of been spent on real environmental issues. We could probably eat off the streets.

No back-burning, no control when the fires do arrive ! Charge those idiots who ban sensible people from back burning with damages !

Dear runner,

The report posted talked of numerous fires not a large one at all. 1953 does not even feature in the list of historical bushfires in the state.

The two major fires have currently chalked up over 100,000 hectares already and the tally is likely to climb further.

Dear Hasbeen,

Mate you really need to stop being so bloody hypocritical. If you had posted about the fires in a general sense you would have gotten a completely different reaction. You instead decided to single out blame by rehashing your normal agenda of blaming the 'greenies'.

“The incredibly poor maintenance of our parks, & an ideology wanting to keep thick impenetrable scrub in them is fostering much of these fires.”

Then when people point out the elephant in the room you get all huffy saying “God these warmists are disgusting.”

So what you are really saying is 'let me run with my agenda but I will tear strips off anyone who does the same'.

Well it doesn't work like that in the real world old chum. You serve it and you will get it returned even if it is unseemly behaviour by both of us given the trauma facing many of those impacted.

How about we both pull our heads in.

Dear SteeleRedux,

The sad part is that all of the predictions of the climatologists are starting to come true and they are happening a lot sooner than the climatologists predicted. We could be reaching some of those tipping points in the next few years.

I predicted that parts of northern NSW and southern Queensland would become dust bowls and it looks like there is a good chance of that happening over the next few years. If strong winds keep blowing after these current bushfires have abated they will more then like carry away all of the nutrients of the burnt vegetation leaving a barren landscape in which virtually nothing will grow unless supported by irrigation.

'The sad part is that all of the predictions of the climatologists are starting to come true and they are happening a lot sooner than the climatologists predicted'

what you mean bushfires, flood and drought. You obviously have only heard the history of Australia in terms of white invasion. Have no no sense at all.

Dear runner,

You don't come across as being the full quid. Do you ever think about what you want to say before saying it? Either stop walking in front of speeding trucks or give up drinking from morning to night or both. I'm sure you will be a lot better for it.

"When your top firefighters in the state say this is linked to climate change"

Wait. I thought you had to be climate scientist to have any credentials on the issue?
So now I get it. Not a climate scientist and don't buy CAGW - disbelieve. Not a climate scientist and buy CAGW - totally believe.
That's some clear thinking there.

"this kind of threat level this early in the season is unprecedented"
2009. Fires in September in Ingham Mount Lindsay Highway at Cedar Creek, south-west of Brisbane,Coochin Creek, Cedar Pocket, east of Gympie, Neurum, west of Woodford, Beelbi Creek, north of Maryborough, at Johnstown, south-east of Murgon and near Roma and Injune in southern Queensland. Around half of the state under total fire ban from the 22 September. Massive disaster relief package.

Unprecedented since the last time it happened.

"We should be doing our bit as a country"

Let me ask all the resident we're-all-gunna-die crowd this.

Let's say Australia does its bit. We close down all CO emissions. We go zero emissions and become carbon neutral. Let's assume that for a moment.

How long after that will the bush fires stop?
How long after that will the droughts stop?
How long after that will the floods stop?
How long after that will the GBR be declared safe?

How long before we see the fruits of our sacrifice.

Using IPCC formula, if Australia lived up to its Paris commitments through to 2100AD, temperatures would be lower by 0.04 degrees C.

Will that stop the bush fires?

Any chance all of this is about posturing and job protection.

What happens if you get a sh!t load of money annually to protect the community from fires and you don't? Do you admit you screwed up? or do you blame someone/something else for your failures?

CO2 - the all purpose scapegoat.

"When your top firefighters in the state say this is linked to climate change"
mHaze,
Every time I switch on the TV News I see those "top firefighters & other "Experts" standing behind their Premiers doing nothing par the odd nod. My guess is that wouldn't know a bushfire from a BBQ considering their time is spent behind a City desk on $300,000 salaries +.

Humble pie all round within ten years as even the strongest anti climate changers are forced to say they got it wrong

http://www.9news.com.au/national/bushfires-qld-nsw-updates-peregian-sunshine-coast-fire-map-live-weather-news-alerts/ea2b7126-269c-4d48-b33b-dcc9aa125a7a
The link is not a pay to see sight
But gives a full report on fires in both states, worth the read

The people who believe in the AGW theory of climate change would have believed that the world was flat and that the bubonic plague was caused by miasmas when those two beliefs were rampart. It's a wonder the 'scientists' are not mucking around with alchemistry to make gold. They haven't got past the Dark Ages.

Stanford University’s Pat Frank in a paper titled ‘Propagation of Error and the Reliability of Global Air Temperature Projections’ argues that warmist climate modellers are more notable for arrogance than accuracy:

Climate modellers are not trained in the scientific method. They are not trained to be scientists. They are not scientists. They are not trained to evaluate the physical or predictive reliability of their own models.

"Subjectivist narratives and academic critical theories are prejudicial constructs. They are in opposition to science and reason" .

Dear individual,

The top fire officer I quoted is the former head of the Queensland fire services. He started his firefighting career at the ripe old age of 21 and had over 3 decades of experience at all levels of the service.

He was not a 'management type' parachuted in but is a well respected and highly experienced fireman.

And you want to piss all over that effort with you little snide remarks.

Well bully for you mate.

SteeleRedux,
Career being the operative word !

Well some of the things posted here are pure nonsense, some is just a little mad
Not sure, know once it was said, by some one worth taking notice of,*we say dreadful things about one another here*
That has got worse
AND SHEDDING CONTRIBUTORS SEEMS PROOF
so what? so what if others have different view? is that reason to dump on them

Well bully for you mate.
SteeleRedux,
Shouldn't these magnificent heroes be out fighting fires instead of parading behind Premiers ?

Everything individual says about the clowns parading in uniforms more appropriate to a South American dictator is true. The good guys are the volunteers who actually fight fires.

Dear individual,

My earlier reply seems to have gone south so I will offer it again. I have a relative in a quite senior position in one of our uniformed services.

One of the things he detests is being paraded out to be a back drop for some politician. While he understands that in an emergency situation getting unfiltered information to the public from a senior officer is an important part of the role there are times when he isn't even given the opportunity to speak. He says all he thinks about while he is there is about all the things he could be getting done instead.

It takes a strong leader who will look after his charges in this regard even if it means stepping on politician's toes. The head of the ADF did it at a press conference with Christopher Pyne.

http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2272083989707524

So why don't you go after the politicians who insist that they have a backdrop of uniformed people to give them more gravitas instead of some bloke who has put in over 30 years of service and who started very much at the pointy end?

So no one is going to attempt to explain how and/or when us " doing our bit as a country" will stop bush fires from happening.

About what I expected.

The fact is bush fires like this will happen (and have been happening for millennia) whatever we do in terms of CO2 reductions. Its just that those of a certain persuasion want to pretend otherwise in order to get what they (or more exactly their gurus ) want ie societal overhaul.

The only thing, the one and only thing, that will reduce the severity of these fires is a massively ramped up controlled burn programme. But that is politically unacceptable and none of those whose jobs depend on being politically correct will say it.

So, since doing the only sensible thing is not acceptable they have to find an alternate excuse for their failure...CO2.

So true mhaze, without controlled burns fires like this are inevitable.

In these districts 2017 was a very wet year, with rainfall of 35% & more above average. This promoted a huge growth of underbrush that chocked national parks, & private woodlands alike.

Followed 2 years later by the driest year on record has killed most of this & led to an equally huge load of dead underbrush, just asking for a reason to burn. Although watering as much as my dam water supply will allow, I have lost a dozen shrubs, & a few small trees in my house paddock due to this dry.

Then we have national parks, doing about stuff all to try to reduce this hazard, & the recipe is for disaster. Then build at the top of wooded ridges, up which we know fires race, & it is a matter of when not if the fire will get them.

Come off that raw prawn SR. You know as well as the rest of us, that it is the ability to brown nose, & to get their bosses out of the sh1t they have caused, that gets bureaucrats to the top positions. It most definitely has nothing to do with any ability to do the job. Particularly so in things like fire fighting, that usually involves fighting the politicians to get the right policies in place.

As you can't possibly believe the garbage you post, don't you ever get sick ow writing such stuff?

yep we use to call couples shacked up living in sin (still true) but now we call breathing sin because we have traded morality for fake morality of virtue signalling backed by fake pseudo science and lies.

Tony Abbott firefighter, serving Indigenous communities, serving his community

Zali wants Govt to declare 'climate emergency'

says it all about regressive virtue signalling voters and pollies

how dumbed down can people be.

With reference to mhaze's comment about doing our bit to stop bushfires, Dr Ottmar Edenhofer, director of the influential Potsdam Institute, gets it.’One has to free oneself,’ he says, ‘from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.’ The last word is from UN climate supremo, Christiana Figures, who admits, ‘probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves… is to intentionally transform the economic development model’.

The only way to reduce bushfires is to clean up, burn off, something the Green loonies keep blocking and campaigning against all the time. Bloody hypocrites.

The Green Climate Fund has the intention of gauging from the West $100 billion per year by 2020

So why don't you go after the politicians who insist that they have a backdrop of uniformed people to give them more gravitas
SteeleRedux,
I'm doing it at just about every turn here, haven't you noticed ?
Let common sense people manage their properties & let the Indigenous Rangers in National Parks back burn & the fires will be less severe.
It has been proven time & time again that the "Experts" have no idea how to manage.
Just wait for deluge that will follow due to all this extra heat !

Well no mate you went after a bloke who has served as a firefighter for decades rather than the politicians.

However as far as pollies are concerned you have my full support to take them to task, just make sure you spread it around.

The Queensland Police Commissioner blames children and arsonists for the bushfires - not climate change.

ttbn,
Maybe the pressure of Climate change hype made the kids do it ?

Maybe. The hysterics seem able to blame anything at all on climate change. And the biggest kid of them all, Scott Morrison, has fallen for the climate change theory of what used to be regular bushfires: someone told him that rain forest didn't normally burn, so it must be CC. Obviously he hasn't noticed the rain forest fires in South America burning as the rest of us have! They weren't caused by climate change either, but by farmers clearing land.

It appears that my son and his family are still
going on their holiday after all. Noosa appears
to have been given the all clear.

I've got a question though. Does anyone know
anything about one of our regular posters -
David Fisher (David F.)? I believe his home is
in the Gold Coast Hinterland. Is he all right?
Is he and his family safe from the fires?
Anyone know?

Hope so Foxy, also mo news about rehctub hope we have not lost him,
Sure every one feels for all the victims including dead animals these fires brought about
In a local area page on facebook a female ranted and abused a poster for talking about the smoke [whole mid north coast is covered in it]
She was feeling the pain but not the logic, the next fire bug may be a murderer we need honest justice not oh they are only kids for those caught

Dear Belly,

I saw on TV a poor koala who had climbed a tree
to escape from the fire. Poor thing. Other animals
flee, koalas climb trees. Breaks your heart.

cont'd ...

I too hope that Rehctub is doing all right.
Wherever he is.

Bob Rogers, RFS Deputy Commissioner told the media that there is no record of fire dangers that high that early in areas in NSW. Of course , the scaremongering, not-always-truthful media just passed on what he said - all bulldust as RECORDS from from September 6, 1915; September 28, 1928; September 20, 1935; September 16, 1946 and September 7, 1951 all show.

Queensland or New South Wales: there is nothing new about bushfires.

ttbn breaking a promise made to myself in answering your bitter twisted post
This is too important to leave alone the fires 50 still burning in NSW one out of control, have killed millions of things
Animals trees wild life is not alone housed destroyed it hurts
Best the bitter old man you are can find to say is insulting those who fight them and think our drought is or may be part of global warming
Thought long and hard about leaving this site, YOU ARE THE REASON oh others get close but YOU mate are a [censored] by me.
Foxy,s post mentioned that Kola it reminded me of the photo of the fear and worse they and us will face before this horror summer is over

In the news today - inland Australian towns are
running out of water. Further on the news was
the fact that fire-fighters in the NSW/Q'Land
region have mentioned that they only have nine
large fire-fighting planes for the whole of
Australia whereas in California, US, They have
35 for the state.

Should we be concerned? Possibly not, as the
deniers of climate-change will re-assure us.

'Should we be concerned? Possibly not, as the
deniers of climate-change will re-assure us.'

typical hysterical nonsense by the gw religion. If they really believed their nonsense they would be protesting China's thousands of new power stations. Instead they revert to abuse with no rationale. And Foxy 'prides' herself on evidence. The warmist fools would be the first to stop dams being built.

Before you start throwing nasty remarks at skeptics Foxy, go have a look at the JoNova blog. It wouldn't hurt SR to take a look either.

She has produced newspaper reports going back to the 1930s & before showing the total lie our top fire executives are pushing to support global warming, & try to blame anything but their lousy work for problems.

You will find that far from unprecedented in September, we have had catastrophic fires even in August on many occasions. It is typical of bureaucrats following the government line to tell bare faced lies, & for many to unfortunately believe them, when lefty media don't do the job of researching these things, & exposing the lies.

DROUGHT very real, and no matter why it is the reason for the fires, along with idiots lighting them
Fire bugs kids or not, should serve time in prison
We have turned the truth, the fires are devastating, in to a climate change debate, it is horrific
We need to do something about the drought, our long history with droughts
Return treated sewage inland, pump water bound for the sea inland
But too, act now to stop the tree changers and tree hugers from stalling winter burn off
From ignoring this country's thousands of years historic burning the bush, to control bush fires

Hasbeen,

You are repeating what I said - but the records actually go back to 1915. I wonder if you will be called bitter and twisted by the resident idiot as I was.

Irrespective of the causes of the drought, Australia at roughly 1% of world emissions has no chance of altering the outcome, but it does have the ability to protect assets threatened by fire.

The chucklenuts in the greens are happy to continually block any reduction in fire load near houses and then blame climate change when the houses burn down, which is why the greens are as popular as the clap in rural Australia.

Dear Hasbeen,

Tell me, if I go look at Nova's blog will it try and equate fires before the war to what we are experiencing today? Or will she have taken into account just how large the latest one was in comparison to many of the smaller blazes before the advent of modern fire fighting techniques including fire bombers?

Or will she have cobbled together a collection of news stories from all over the state to make the claim that catastrophic fires have regularly occurred at this time of year in SE Queensland?

Dear Hassie,

I don't read Nova's blog. She never has anything
of any substance to say.

ttbn,

You are judged by your own posts.
And they're not gobstoppers of glory.

Both the latest two posts are true, in the end some will deny climate change while cooking up in the extreme heat this summer
By the end of coming horrific bush fires we may well see a Royal Commission again on how to stall future ones