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Posted by Belly, Thursday, 5 September 2019 6:14:06 AM
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So SR,
You decide to show how I incorrectly thought Trump couldn't win by pointing to a post where I said I thought he could win. I guess you think there's logic there...but you'd be wrong. And then you try to make some point about the Chinese negotiations. These aren't over yet so I don't see how anyone can say previous predictions are right or wrong. But we do already know that the Chinese have caved on the issue of copyright violations so half of what I suggested has already come to pass. What "magical powers" did I assign to Trump? Just making stuff up again. Stuff-up being your default position. Again, its funny how the TDS crowd fail to see the successes of the past three years. Take China's economic shenanigans. This has been going on for the better part of three decades. Clinton enabled it. Bush ignored it. Obama sat like a rabbit caught in the head-lights. Silence from the TDS crowd. But now they proclaim that, after a mere 3 years Trump hasn't completely solved the issue. That he is well on the way to fixing it and a range of other problems is ignored. Oh well hang in there and continue to be misled. Just on SR, we ought to remember that he. more than anyone here, fell head over tush for the Russian collusion fable. So he has a vested interest in trying to ignore the Trump successes. Speaking of which... http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-poland-usa-energy/us-to-help-poland-ukraine-disconnect-from-russian-gas-idUSKCN1VL0HH?fbclid=IwAR2lU67nmD_ho0MzyQmWoqfiD4_rhVZZ4-R0WSm8Xf-VoYR5SIfzPmXhg9Q Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 5 September 2019 2:52:25 PM
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Dear mhaze,
To repeat this was an example of the magical powers you had assigned to the buffoon; "Trump doesn't have to actually impose the anti-Chinese tariffs to force them to the negotiating table. The threat is enough." Well it wasn't was it. Now all he is doing is digging himself deeper. I am perfectly happy for him to be protecting US industry via tariffs, as I said it would have been great if some of our politicians had stepped up when needed. But you had been singing his praises for so long that it was a pleasure showing up how much of a sycophant you are for your president. Thank you for making it so easy. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 5 September 2019 2:57:23 PM
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And the hilarity continues.
I point out that Foxy, relying on her purely left leaning sources, has made an unbroken series of failed predictions about Trump and the Trump presidency. And without the slightest effort to address that point, conceding therefore that indeed she has been misled for 3 years by said sources, she simply goes on make a series of other predictions which will undoubtedly come to the same fate as before. That is, shown to be wrong and rapidly forgotten by Foxy. Just a few other Foxy points: "2018 the stock market suffered its worst year, since the 2008 financial meltdown." The stock market? you want to use the stock market as a Trump negative? This is the market that, upon his victory, we were advised would collapse, but instead grew by around 50%. You really ought to be more suspicious of these TDS sources of yours. "chumminess with adversarial authoritarian leaders such as Kim Jong-Un" You've used this phraseology before to discredit Trump. The reason is that you, and presumably your TDS sources, don't or aren't prepared to try, to understand this form of diplomacy. The west spent 70 years demonising the NK leadership and got precisely nowhere in terms of negotiation. Now there is progress by trying to show Kim et al that, if they play nice they can have a friend in the USA. It may not work but its better than the policies of the previous few presidents who effectively enabled the NK nuclear programme. But I suppose your TDS sources won't tell you that. As to Belly, I point out that he seems to get all his opinions on Trump from the most anti-Trump source in Australia (the SMH) and he responds by linking to the SMH. Hopefully that was a subtle joke but I suspect not. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 5 September 2019 3:16:42 PM
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So SR,
You try to show I thought Trump couldn't win by showing me saying Trump could win. I point out the illogicality of that. You respond by....changing the subject. Pretty standard SR. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 5 September 2019 3:20:43 PM
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m haze! how will you retreat after the unmasking of Trump
And how will you try to account for being blinded by the product of the south bound end of a north bound bull the man feeds such as you with Foxy, you [just like him] paint anyone on the others side as left And that is both hugely funny and tells more about you than her Posted by Belly, Thursday, 5 September 2019 3:44:09 PM
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I have a thought, if Trump supporters here will, just for a minute, read this balanced view of Trump
It will give them a more honest view than Sky/Fox ever did [yes know truth is not part of the plan for both]