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Cardinal Pell's Appeal Fails.

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Suffer the little children who come unto me
Not quite the right words
But in the eyes of far too many the right meaning as seen in the eyes of some Catholic Church defenders
Pell is at this point a convicted pedophile
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 4:56:09 PM
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Dear Runner,

«Pell is paying the penalty for the sins of the Catholic church.»

Pell is paying the penalty for attempting to reform the finances of the Catholic church, thus getting in the way of the Italian Mafia. The rest of them, Australian judges and jurors, are merely useful idiots. The "lesson" this teaches us is to remain small, quiet and fearful, never trying to actively oppose the Mafia or similar evil institutions.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 4:58:22 PM
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'But in the eyes of far too many the right meaning as seen in the eyes of some Catholic Church defenders'

repeating the lie often enough Belly does not make it true. No one is defending Pell or the Catholic church. Some in the labour party/greens use to believe that someone needed to be found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. You and your leftie mates hate so much you have trashed that fundamental freedom.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 5:26:25 PM
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Ah ha. There might be something in what Yuyutsu says. Pell has certainly been unpopular in the Vatican since he took over the books.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 6:10:09 PM
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Hi HenryL,

//So in Victoria now we have a system whereby upon accusations the accused exists under a presumption of guilt.//

I'm no legal eagle, but I think that is manifestly untrue. The situation in Victoria now is, is the un-corroborated evidence of one person to be believed by the jury to a point where there is no reasonable doubt. In this case Pell's defence grilled the accuser to see if his evidence would become unstuck in the minds of the jurors, it did not. Two of the appeal judges believed there were no ground to suggest the jury should have had reasonable doubt about what the accuser said. The other point is the defence chose not to put Pell on the stand, maybe they should have, I don't know.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 6:53:32 PM
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Some of those protesting the innocence of paedophile Pell, are also some who protested the innocence of that other notorious paedophile Ross Harris. That's the only trend I can see.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 8:45:34 PM
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