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BUDJ BIM an Indigenous eel trap site added to World Heritage List!

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Foxy, what you ask IS exactly the problem I speak of.
I may be employing semantics, but for an explanatory purpose.
You ask me 'to know my facts, before posting'.
Fair question.
My response is that I have conveyed, 'the facts' as they are written and presented, even repeated by other commentors.
I am not questioning the facts, they are a matter of record, because they are in books, for all to see and confirm, so i agree with the 'fact' that what is written is presented as facts.
And they just MIGHT BE.
What I am promoting, as I have always said, is that the facts do not convey the TRUTH.
Facts are merely that, FACTS!
The act of drawing conclusions from facts is more one of subjectivity than the truth which is objectivity.
The truth, leaves nothing to chance or misinterpretation, it is clear and unequivocally correct and therefore the TRUTH.
Foxy neither you nor your idol, can argue with that.
You see the difference between us, is that you WANT to believe something because you like it and therefore want it to be true.
I, on the other hand, believe nothing, until it has been thoroughly tested and shown or proven to be TRUE.
Your mate and in fact a lot of history is in the former category with stupid and ridiculous comments like 'it has been peer reviewed'.
Big deal, it's like telling me that the court is run by thieves and they are hearing a case about a thief.
Can you not see the hypocrisy of you world.
No you keep bleating on about how hard done by our blacks are and how badly they have been treated.
Well here's fact that IS TRUE, they have only themselves to blame, we have done nothing.
You love referencing, look it up, I'm sure there is a whole section on it, or is it an inconvenient truth?
You are part of the voice of non-reason, for pushing these fabricated and virtue shaming agenda.
Basically, emotional blackmail.
For once the govt did what they were instructed to do.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 2:03:21 PM
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Hi Mhaze,

It surely shouldn't have to be said that understanding starts with the truth. The obvious enemy of truth is fabrication, lies, distortions, 'creative re-definition' and suppression of reality. The truth requires facing up to realities, warts and all.

So the truth requires evidence, all of the evidence and nothing but the evidence. The absence of evidence, 99.9 % of the time means the absence of evidence. if no evidence, it's extremely unlikely that x or y occurred. All evidence should be tested to ensure that it's not fabricated to fit someone's scenario. That's the scientific method. Anything else is either criminal or religious thinking.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 2:06:15 PM
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ROTFL some one, quite possibly a fan of Trump has promoted truth
Rare as hens teeth right now in world politics
EG leaks to Murdocks press [anti truth there] about a boat arrival
Bet your boots Feds will not raid the Minister or his propaganda factory
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 4:22:34 PM
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Belly,

I would feel very uncomfortable about putting the words 'Trump' and 'truth' in the same sentence. Or the same paragraph.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 6:00:36 PM
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Joe,

Funny thing some of us feel the same way about a few
of our posters on this forum - right?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 6:08:00 PM
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Now back to the topic...

I've just come across an interesting article in
"The Conversation" that I think is worth mentioning.

It tells us that Budj Bim's World Heritage listing is an
Australian first. It is the first Indigenous
Australian landscape to be listed on the World Heritage
List purely for its cultural values.

We're told that even the most iconic Indigenous Australian
cultural sites, such as Uluru-Kata Tjuta and Kakadu
National Park were listed for both natural and cultural
values.

They ask could this be just a start?

They suggest other sites worth of attention:

1) The Dampier Archipelago (including the Burrup
Peninsula) 1.550 kilometres north of Perth. It has one
of the most spectacular rock art landscapes in Australia.

Apparently the richness and diversity of this art is
extraordinary.

2) Baiame's Ngunnhee (Brewarrina Fishtraps) located in the
Darling River near Brewarrina in NSW are a clear example of
Indigenous science. They offer material evidence of the
Ngemba people's advanced knowledge of dry-stone wall
technology, river hydrology, and fich ecology.

Then they also list:

3) Ngarrabullgan
4) Quinkan country
5) Western Tasmania Aboriginal Cultural Landscape

I won't go into the details. There's more to read at the
following link:

http://theconversation.com/budj-bims-world-heritage-listing-is-an-australian-first-what-other-indigenous-cultural-sites-could-be-next-120097
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 6:21:33 PM
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