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BUDJ BIM an Indigenous eel trap site added to World Heritage List!
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Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 22 July 2019 3:48:49 PM
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ALTRAV,
Before you post - I've got one suggestion - Find out something about the topic. Surprise us. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2019 4:08:36 PM
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Foxy, not a problem, what do you want to know?
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 22 July 2019 10:48:37 PM
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ALTRAV,
It is a big problem. My request was directed at you . Know your facts before posting. You obviously don't on this subject. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 10:25:58 AM
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OK, Foxy,
Tell us one fact: what grasses were cultivated ? Please, please, don't say kangaroo grass ! Or Mitchell grass ! Nobody in their right mind, even now with all the technology of today, would bother cultivating those piddly grasses. Not while there were miles of it in every direction. 'Find out something about the topic.' Indeed Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 11:05:50 AM
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Foxy wrote..."Restoring Aboriginal pride in the past and allowing that past to inform the future will remove the yoke of despair from Aboriginal people. "
Yes that's exactly what I’m talking about. When you manipulate the past in the service of the future you usually make things worse for those in the present. I’ve noted that aboriginal society was highly misogynistic (perhaps the most ever) and that aboriginal women suffered rape, beatings, slavery etc etc. They were effectively little more than chattel. One 19th researcher wondered how aboriginal groups managed to travel with their grinding stones but learned the explanation that the women were effectively the group’s pack-mules. But when people like Pascoe (and his cultists) set out to idealise pre-historic aboriginal society all of that has to be written out of the story. Currently, in this day and age, aboriginal women suffer by far the greatest levels of domestic violence, and all that entails, in Australia. Yet because of the desperation to cover over the past in the service of the future, we see little effort to fix their plight. When we see anti-DV campaigns, we never see black faces. Yet, if there was truly a desire to resolve the issue, the black violence would be the first to be addressed. It’s clear that black men are simply adhering to a cultural way of thinking that is millennia old and remains still their cultural way of thinking and acting. But we can’t attack the problem from that angle because the truth has been written out of popular history by the likes of Pascoe. So fight for an idealised future by creating an idealised past. But remember that there are real casualties in that fight – aboriginal women and children. As to the ‘Lion King’ – I never saw the ‘make’ so am unlikely to see the ‘remake’. Besides I’ve never had much regard for fascistic propaganda…. http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/07/10/lion-king-is-fascistic-story-no-remake-can-change-that/?utm_term=.8bf54c403224 Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 12:32:56 PM
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Your first paragraph is a load of bollocks, dreamed up by some fool with his head in the clouds or elsewhere for that matter.
In fact the whole thing is a pathetic attempt at trying to glorify the blacks.
He speaks of 'restoring that pride' their pride, why did we take it off them?
If so where did we put it?
No! we did not take anything.
If they have something to be proud about, they don't need some white fella telling them we stole their pride, they would argue they are still a proud people and tell this guy Pascoe piss off and to shut up.
This book 'dark emu' for the little I have read/learnt/researched about it, I am prepared to call it fiction.
He assumes too much, is patronising, makes unconfirmed claims and assumptions.
Nowhere, I am told by those who have tried to read it, but put it back, is there any mention or speculation of other possibilities explaining the rock circles, and that they may be the result of interlopers who were quickly dispatched (killed) by the 'peaceloving' people they were. (sarcasm)
NO! nothing in this guys explanation tells us we did anything wrong or we owe the blacks anything, so if the jelly brains and the neuters want to make themselves feel good about something, try a setting up a cake stall, and leave the blacks to their own devices, because after all they were such an advanced race.
I'm sure if that is true then if we leave them alone, they will suddenly spring into life and demonstrate to us all what an advanced and culturally proud people they are.
I'll give this guy Pascoe something, he sounds like he's been telling too many stories around the ole' campfire just once too many times.