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Folau and GoFundMe

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Foxy,

"The fact is - condemning gays (and others) to hell
is vilification"

Not if they're Satanists.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 6 July 2019 6:54:18 PM
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Rugby Australia maintains that Folau was dismissed not
because of his religious beliefs, but because he breached
the player code of conduct.

The Chair of Rugby Australia has explained numerous
times in television interviews - that the code is typical
of that of many businesses.

It requires players to treat everyone equally and with
dignity, regardless of their sexual orientation: not to
use social media to breach expected standards of
behaviour: and not to make public comments or otherwise
clearly act contrary to the best interests of the
game. It was a normal contract which players sign.

Folau agreed to this contract and signed it. The additional
clauses were not inserted - and as it turns out
were not necessary for Rugby
Australia to sack him especially after three warnings,
many interviews, and a written letter making sure he
understood the consequences of his behaviour.
He ignored it all, and chose to do as he pleased.

Clearly, Folau's actions breached the player code of
conduct that he had agreed to and signed for $4 million
a year, and was warned about.

He had changed his mind. However the fact remains -
he breached his contract.
And Rugby Australia held him to account.

Case Law tells us that Section 351 of the Fair Works Act,
requires the employee to prove an employer was motivated
to discriminate against him or her because of religion.

If an employer can point to an employee's breach of their
employment obligations as the reason for their dismissal
instead of a discriminatory motive, then the employee's
claim fails.

Rugby Australia terminated Folau's employment contract after
a tribunal determined his actions had breached the
organisation's code of conduct.

Folau has now brought a claim to the Fair Works Commission
alleging the termination was because of his religion and
therefore unlawful.

That, he has yet to prove.

It will be interesting to see what the Courts will
decide.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 July 2019 7:37:23 PM
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Is Mise,

Your comment about Satanists is not accurate.
Satanists don't believe in a heaven or a
hell. They reject the notion of an external
mystical dimension and a spiritual afterlife.

Google it for yourself.

But of course Satan has been the best friend
the Church has ever had. He's kept it in
business all these years. (smile).
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 July 2019 7:56:45 PM
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Here we go again.
Anyone pushing anything but NRL stuffing it up and the little weasel pushing his pathetic weight and sponsorship around is trying to deflect from the real guilty party, the NRL.
Shove the dignity and respect angle, this is not the ladies tea party, this is business, BIG business, and more importantly a very physical and aggressive game.
There is no place for feather-heads, and women in business and here is ANOTHER example of many as to why.
Clearly there is no misconduct, if one looks at what really happened, and not keep on about what they think happened.
Anyone can see that the so called 'experienced, professional' maggot stuffed up big time.
Tried to rectify HER stuff up, now she's got one foot out the door, with any luck she'll be out on her arse after this little stuff up is over.
Folau quoted some religious versus, big deal, if he was aiming his comments at any particular Christians, then they should give thought to their situation, if not, no one cared, either because their not Christian or they just don't care, worse things get said in sports.
Along comes every sanctimonious cretin with their version of what 'the player code of conduct' is and hey presto, Folau is guilty and this moron of a manager is somehow not to blame for this storm in a teacup.
I wish certain people would stop pontificating and continually trying to virtue shame by pushing their insane and quite frankly unfounded, mis-giuded and twisted views.
I'll say it again the NRL maggot stuffed up, (big time).
Folau did nothing wrong, his comments were a broadcast and did not name any one particular person.
Quoting some passages from a religious teaching is him simply preaching.
Quite different from some pathetic, sensitive little wallflowers that will actually leave a church sermon because they were offended by what a PRIEST? was preaching from the pulpit.
These people are sick and mentally deranged, they must not be taken seriously, in fact they should be committed.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 6 July 2019 8:36:11 PM
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Folau breached his employment obligation and now has
to face the consequences in court.

What those consequences shall be - we will have to
wait and see.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:00:07 AM
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Why would Israel Folau want to continue to be associated with a group or organisation that had a policy opposed to his religious beliefs. I not sure when rugby Australia adopted their current status on gay vilification . . . . If it was before Folau joined rugby Australia , he has joined the wrong organisation . . . Go with your beliefs I guess I'm saying. If it was after he had been part of rugby Australia . . . did he stand up and say " sorry I can no longer be associated with this organisation that has opposing beliefs to mins" ? In either case Folau has accepted money from being associated with an organisation that apparently has the most moralistic opposition to his . . . A complete affront for him . . . . no sleeping quietly at night.
Posted by Demon, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:06:07 AM
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