ALTRAV,

For your information:

1) Data is provided as a result of research
and findings on any given subject.
And, one gives the references to show
these findings to others.
They can assess the data and make up their own
minds on the subject.

2) The Crime Statistics Agency (CSA) was the same
data base that Shadow Minister also used. My second post
added to the information he provided. It did not
contradict him. It clarified what he wrote.

3) Your rant about me was totally inappropriate, rude,
and unnecessary. I can provide the data, but I can't
understand it for you.

ttbn,

You just can't help yourself. You can't resist biting.
And you wonder why the word "toxic" is apt regarding
your behaviour?

Foxy, I get that you don't like bad things or have to think that there are bad people out there.
But why the heck do you turn a blind eye to what is proven and real as opposed to this continual quoting of other 'official' sources.
You must have realised, even a little, at some stage in your life that some people are just plain evil, and cannot be saved or turned.
I don't want to read any more links and bloody references, if anything listen to what real people are saying here, now, today, and absolutely stop 'cherry picking' articles and material that you feel will help bolster or even make your case for you.
Just accept that there is a problem with some immigrants and stop trying to defend them.
If you don't already know what pisses us off it's this very example, and you practice it at every opportunity.
I can tell you for a fact, as you and the rest of us have been told over and over again to point of madness that this latter bunch of interlopers that have been arriving over the last few years are just not compatible with our lifestyle and values.
They may conform one day, but it's not happening now.
And the fact that you attempt to disseminate the false information to try to make these people look less guilty of the crimes they are accused of, is shameful on your part.
You are prepared to put people, including your own family at risk, just to promote an ideal or not admit you are wrong.

Foxy,

We are all aware of the tactic of trying to bury the issue under a pile of irrelevant statistics.

That the Sudanese are responsible for only 1% of crime is cover for the fact that they are only 0.1% of the population, and the crimes that they commit are predominately of the high end violent category for which they make up nearly 10% of offenders.

What would Melbourne be like if they were 1% of the population?

ALTRAV & Shadow Minister,

How about this title for your favourite OLO sparring partner ?

Dr. Diafoirus

ALTRAV,

In any discussion a person needs to know their
facts and be able to back them up in order
to be taken seriously.

Shadow Minster,

Fact-Check provides -

The following link - where I got my information from.
It also explains the factors involved in the reasons
for the crimes, such as age.
There's some interesting data brought out. You possibly may
have already read it. Anyway, it's worth a read to maintain
a balance.

cont'd ...

Here's the link:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-05/fact-check-sudanese-gangs-victoria/10187550