ALTRAV,

I am just providing information.

Most thinking people want to have access to
information.

A democracy requires its citizens to make
informed choices. If citizens or their representatives
are denied access to the information they need to make
these choices, or if they are given false or misleading
information, the democratic process becomes a sham.

It's therefore important that the media not be censored
and public officials tell the truth.

When some politicians
(as happened in the last Victorian election)
use fear mongering tactics, or lie to us,
or exaggerate, their actions need to be corrected.
And, for me to do that is an occupational habit.

However if that upsets you in any way - don't read what
I post.

Here's another link to add to your collection:

http://www.theage.com.au/melbourne-news/are-sudanese-people-over-represented-in-victoria-s-crime-statistics-20180904-p501qx.html

Maybe it's just me but all I want to know is how many of these people are there in Victoria, and how many of the same people are the problem?
You would think that was a simple enough question.
Then do the same for the rest of the different races.
That's all I ask.
What I see in these articles and graphs and so on are attempts at muddying the water for fear the PC police will start ranting about bias and discrimination and the usual rubbish.
I want to know, because it will show the truth.
Not because I want to be right, but obviously with all this smoke there must be one hell of a fire, and the PC brigade are flat out trying to keep it under control.
I want to know one way or the other.
Stop mixing percentages and numbers, it is what you do if you want to hide the truth.

ALTRAV,

Read the link I gave you.

The information is given there.

The Mayors in the above link say racist fear mongering must stop !
How are the going to clamp down on the racists if they keep importing them ?

Foxy, why are you now using my words to preach to me as if I need to stop misleading people.
All that you said is exactly what I've been telling you.
Go back and look it up, it's all there.
As for your link, again you try to sell the idea that you give people information so 'they' can make informed decisions.
Rubbish, your links are ALL loaded towards the outcomes of your message.
Again you don't read my comments otherwise you would know I already read your links every bloody boring, biased one of them, so I'll ask again if, this time, ANYONE can tell me ,without mixing percentages and numbers, what the number of Sudanese in Victoria, South or otherwise, are, and what is the number of those that are the criminals or in the gangs?
Then do the same for other races in Vic as well.
That is the only true way to identify and differentiate who are the culprits and how many, exactly, are represented by each race or creed.
ie; I want numbers like; if there are 1000 of this race then there are 100 of them identified as criminals.
That's what I'm saying, instead of mixing numbers and percentages only makes it difficult and some cases impossible to get a clear picture.
It seems, that is the intention, as this comes under the purview of the PC police, to ensure that any information which may be seen as racism be avoided at all cost even to the point of lying.
By your not reading my posts anymore is not helping your campaign, you do realise that don't you?
It only makes you look childish, and of course, un-informed.
And the other question is if you don't read my comments, you do realise that everyone else does, even if only out of curiosity, which leaves you out of touch once more.
So I think I'll ignore your last comment, as it seems like a cry for help as it is almost a straight copy of my own entries of past.

ALTRAV,

Seriously, you would do much better to address your comments
to your kindred spirits on this forum.
They are really wasted on me.

Thank You.