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Refugee Week Australia

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there is still much to be done before the Usual Suspects (ttbn get your own description) can come out of their dark corners and see the light.
Paul1405,
People here have tried to guide you out of your indoctrinated darkness but you seem to get blinded by the light at the end of the tunnel.
Posted by individual, Monday, 24 June 2019 7:14:16 AM
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Hi Paul,

Like most of the community at large, I welcome legal immigrants and legal refugees, but not illegal 'immigrants' or illegal 'refugees'.

Focussing on refugees rather than immigrants, I would be happy to edge up the annual quotas. As long as some of the seventy million genuine refugees and displaced persons around the world have filled out the appropriate forms and waited like everyone else, I welcome those who make the annual quota, and wish the best of luck next time for the hundreds of thousands who have ticked all the right boxes.

I'm fairly sure that these views have support from the community at large, judging by the results of the last election.

Cheers,

Joe.
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 24 June 2019 9:17:02 AM
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Paul,

One needs a balanced approach, while there are many refugees that add value to Aus society, there are also many that do a lot of damage, the African gangs in Melbourne come to mind where Somali immigrants are nearly 70 times more likely to be involved in violent crime.

Also with the illegal boats it is hard to forget the 1200 men woman and children that labor and the greens killed the last time they changed the policy.

I think that you will still find that roughly 80% of thinking people still believe that the illegal boats need to be stopped.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 24 June 2019 9:33:57 AM
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Looks like we've started Joke Week with the claim of "Another successful refugee week", when most of the population didn't know it was 'on'. To be successful, something has to be achieved, but this small, largely unheard of groupwank has made no difference to anything or anyone. People continue to think the same way as they have always done.

As with the often bleated 'successful multiculturalism', the sheep are unable to explain just hour such a divisive state of affairs is, or could ever be, 'successful'
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 24 June 2019 10:22:53 AM
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SM,

According to the Victorian Research Crime Statistics
Agency (CSA) the vast majority of crimes in Victoria
are committed by Australian born people. Between
April 2017 and March 2018 they made up 73.5% of the
unique offender population in Victoria whereas those
born in Sudan made up 1.1%. Of course prior to the
Victorian election fear mongering was the tactic
used by the opposition. They lost.

Labor responsible for death at sea. Yes Labor admits
its mistakes. HOwever the numbers are questionable and the
data also shows that under the Coalition governments 400 and
700 people died en route to Australia.

As for stopping the boats?

Scott Morrison
admitted the "Stop The Boats" slogan will never actually
work as - "There will always be those who try to give it a go."
And as we know from news reports the boats have still
been coming.

Imprisoning people in offshore detention does not
count as stopping the boats. Neither does turning them
back.

The asylum seekers in offshore detention centres are still
Australia's responsibility so the Coalition has not solved
the problem so much as created a worse one.

The offshore detention policy has cost Australian taxpayers
over $12 billion since 2012 (including the cost of running
detention centres, transport of asylum seekers, and
compensation payouts).

An inquiry is desperately needed into the precise cost of the
program since its beginning.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 11:10:26 AM
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Foxy the latest statistics are:

"Sudanese-born people are 67 times more likely to be charged with aggravated robbery and 55 times more likely to be charged with riot and affray in Victoria than those born elsewhere, ­according to analysis released yesterday by the state’s Crime Statistics Agency.

The annual crime statistics to the end of March showed a rise in gang crime including car-jackings, assaults, street robberies and drug offences, despite the state achieving its lowest criminal incident rate since March 2015 when population growth is taken into account.

Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton revealed there had been an “escalation” in offences committed by people born in Sudan and South Sudan.

“And anecdotally, we do know African youth are still over-­represented in those high-­impact, high-end crimes,” he told Melbourne radio 3AW.

The Australian obtained data based on country of birth prepared for Victoria Police by the Crime Statistics Agency, which shows there were 941 Sudanese-born unique alleged offenders in the year to March, compared with 875 the previous year, and 818 in 2016-17.

Figures for the past five years show Sudan/South Sudan has consistently been among the top two or three places of birth for ­offenders charged with crimes ­including aggravated burglary, serious assault, motor vehicle theft, aggravated robbery, and riot and affray.

The Crime Statistics Agency figures, which detail principal ­offences where offenders may have committed multiple crimes, show Sudanese-born offenders come second to Australian-born offenders (who represent 64.9 per cent of the population) for aggravated robbery and riot and affray, and rank after Australians and New Zealanders (1.57 per cent of the population) for serious ­assault and aggravated burglary."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 12:43:42 PM
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