Individual,

You are a surprise.

Quoting from Moliere no less.

And, I fully agree the discussions on this forum
can often become - "Commedia dell'arte" .

Foxy, you're doing it again.
People, don't pay any attention to the mis-information being pushed by 'we know who'.
Again you find something to try to make your case.
Now let's look at YOUR submission.
I won't waste time on it because you have wasted enough of my time on this 'angle' already, but if you look at the numbers, and the stats, in isolation, and not as a collective, you will find that the percentage of, say, South Sudanese, that are criminals compared to how many South Sudanese are here, you will begin to see a flaw in reports such as this.
I have always said, you can end up with the stats you want simply by asking the questions a certain way.
I am not good at numbers with too many variables, it's confusing, but what I am saying is that somewhere in the numbers and stats (the facts), is the TRUTH.
I would like to see the exact numbers of black offenders compared to the total number of blacks here.
Then look at the total number of whites and compare the percentage of that group.
The surveys are ALWAYS tilted towards the answer the surveyors are seeking when they write the questions up.
Even if the 'truth' exposed that the numbers have been overstated, I suggest that the seriousness and maliciousness of the attacks by these people is so extreme that they are described as an extreme danger or threat.
Whatever the case, if the number of offenders and the severity and cruelty of their offenses is anything like the reports state, we have a serious problem with the mental stability and attitude of these people.
Have we finally gone too far with our generosity that we have let our guard down and allowed MORE undesirables into the country.
I'm sure our police and judiciary are well and truly pissed off with these offenders and those who foolishly pushed to allow them entry, bloody do-gooders, as if the system doesn't have enough to contend with, with the 'home grown' criminals we already have.
Thanks Foxy and Co.!

ALTRAV,

What exactly are you objecting to about the
Fact-Check information. And what specifically
do you find incorrect?
Kindly ex-plain.

I thought I just did, but anyway, I propsed that others check (knowing my answer will be seen as bias) the percentage of blacks to black crimes, and whites to white crimes, I'm over simplifying.
The results might or might not show that, on percentages and comparing eggs with eggs and chickens with chickens, we 'might', find that the percentage of black offenders compared to the total black population in question might exceed the comparison between the total number of whites and the number of white offenders.
At a glance I noticed the differences and the grouping of cultures, which is typical of this new lying culture of PC, so as to not offend a particular race or religion.
I am suggesting to take away the PC veil and look at the numbers in isolation and ethnic types.
You never know I might be wrong.

Foxy,

After everything, I see that "Sudanese-born people are 67 times more likely to be charged with aggravated robbery and 55 times more likely to be charged with riot and affray in Victoria than those born elsewhere" still stands.

SM,

The quote you've given
unfortunately gives a false impression and
needs clarification. The following link may help:

http://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-representation-of-australian-new-zealand-and-sudan-born-people-in-victorian-crime-statistics-101308

I have no wish to argue with you.