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Posted by runner, Sunday, 23 June 2019 2:38:12 PM
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o sung wu, as no-one has seen the absolute high quality and value of your last comments, let me be the first to broadcast your ascension to one who we can turn to on matters such as this.
What these other narrow/closed minded, ill informed and petulant lot will never understand is that even when faced with actual proof or evidence of the error of their ways, thinking or beliefs, they will still insist they are right and mitigate with spurious examples of what WE should do and where WE are at fault. You are a 'MAN among men'. We should ALL take your words to heart, because you speak the truth having 'been there and done that'. Yours may be the best entry so far, and I would urge any do-gooders to take heed and take a deep breath, and consider your words objectively and not subjectively and free of emotion. You have taken the lead on this topic. Well done. Now let's see the do-gooders start their useless inane rants and moot reasoning in trying to de-bunk your comments. Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 23 June 2019 2:52:19 PM
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Runner, hear, hear.
Why is it so hard for some people to see and think clearly, especially when they are presented with an uncomfortable truth? I am not afraid to say that what happens in these countries is none of my business, and so it is none of anyone else's either, except those affected. Now what the do-gooders are contending is that we allow the same tragic actions to be played out here in Australia by allowing them in. Now here is my key point, and I'm sick of having to repeat it to try and convince these do-gooders; because we don't know who the miscreants are, (but they do), and because we only find out once they are here, the ONLY option is to stop migration altogether, irrespective of some stupid f*#&en treaty or agreement. What absolute idiot would sign an open ended invitation to allow terrorists in to a country? No one, with a full deck of cards or mind. That's why we have these detention centres, even they are a hundred times better options than where they come from, if they are telling the truth, which it appears many are not by destroying any evidence of where they come from and possibly who they are, making it impossible to assess them. So you jelly head do-gooders, you tell us which one of these people should be allowed entry into ANY country, let alone Australia? Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 23 June 2019 3:37:46 PM
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The Ombudsman's report provides a detailed picture.
For those interested in seeing how many visas have been cancelled over the years for criminal offences. There's quite a few. And as we know it's not all that easy to get into Australia. Character and criminal checks are done. People are thoroughly assessed prior to having visas granted. Detention plays a part. These people had committed a wide variety of offences. These are not recent occurrences. Criminal elements have been arriving into our country for decades. After all we started as a penal colony. We've had notorious criminals and families killing each other on our streets and in our jails for years. On the web there's a list of Australian people who've been convicted of serious crimes. We've had bank robbers, drug traffickers, notable criminal families (the Morans, Pettingills, et cetera). We've had gangsters, fraudsters, murderers, serial killers, child sex offenders, rapists, and others. Of course we need people to be thoroughly checked and assessed prior to being allowed into the country. That's a given. And it is being done. what is currently under discussion is an attempt to try to see things from the point of view of how we can improve things that deepen the divisions between us and how we can change the attitudes that will make it harder for migrants to settle and for us to accept them.I have stressed that the changes need to be addressed by both our sides. That's why - We need to be able to debate these issues and try to solve some of the problems we are all facing. Of course, there are those who are more interested in condemnation than in explanation. Or finding ways to resolve these problems. Explanations to some people unfortunately - seem tantamount to sympathising and excusing. This all too easily leads onto the questionable practice of name calling and insults. which results in people's reluctance to modify their judgements with the result usually being a total breakdown in communication. Never mind. One can only try. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 June 2019 4:26:24 PM
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To help some who may not be familiar with all the facts here they are from our government: http://www.aph.gov.au/About-Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 June 2019 4:49:25 PM
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I'll try again:
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 June 2019 4:52:32 PM
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the increasing focus on Muslim Australians by
Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party?'
I would imagine every fair minded muslim would not want the **hole of a place reproduced here in Australia from where they have come from. If they do they are not welcome here so its a win win.