Fowardplease, this is a right of reality site, stay, enjoy
Labor did not die, it will rise again, my heart tells me Scomo will never be easy to remove
But that a new Labor leader ALBO please, will be competitive
Too nothing will stop a globale set bach, [financial] in the next three years
He like Rudd will be blamed
Too climate change will continue to be a reason for internal war in his government

Dear runner,

Can you please give me a single Labour Party policy which you deem socialist or are you just speaking slogans again.

Belly,

It's more of a 'reality website', mate. Face up to it: Shorten's dithering on Adani cost Labor Queensland, even if it pulled a few votes among the affluent inner-city, i.e. the 'New Labor' supporters.

And "Bugger the workers. Let them go over to ON and the Coalition, we don't need a bunch of bogans" - seems to be the gamble that the Labor 'left' took, and lost.

Just out of interest: have you noticed something similar to this: when I started as a laborer, back in the mid-sixties, even then, there really weren't too many Australian-born workers: most of my work-mates were Greek, Italian, Maltese, Yugoslav, and some Brits. The bosses and foremen were usually Australian (or Brits). When I was working in NZ a few years later, most of my work-mates were Maori or Polynesian. Terrific workers.

I was selling hippy beads at the Auckland Show in 1970, and the British bloke next door was demonstrating onion-peeling machines. I asked him who worked those machines in Britain: West Indian and South Asian women. Who worked the ones he had sold in NZ: Maori and Polynesian women. Who worked the ones he sold in Australia: Greek, Yugoslav, Lebanese and Turkish women. Not too many locals.

So even back then, fifty years ago now, the Aussie battler had got out of factory work and either gone solo or moved up the hierarchy (and certainly made sure his kids, if they had any sense, got a decent education). I wouldn't be surprised if, even in mining, the picture was similar now - that ironically, perhaps a South African migrant worker has found himself working down the mines in Australia. For which, by the way, he would perhaps have had plenty of expertise.

There have been a lot of myths in Australia. "A working class packed with true-blue Aussies", for one. Even if the higher echelons of the Labor Party make it seem that way.

Cheers,

Joe

'Socialism lost.
Identity politics lost.
Political Correctness lost.'
runner,
They'll replace it with more sinister tactics !

Steelie

'Dear runner,

Can you please give me a single Labour Party policy which you deem socialist or are you just speaking slogans again.'

$1 billion dollars a year of workers money to the most Marxist propaganda machine in Australia (obviously the abc)

Joe,

Your post reminded me of my days in the dockyard in the 1980s,'90s;
I worked with Greeks, Italians, Indians, Lebanese, Armenians, English, Irish, Scots, Hungarians and a couple of Frenchmen (but they were on loan from the French Navy), the workforce was mainly Australian but the proportion was about 30% born overseas.