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So where to for Labor now?

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If this election was supposed to be about climate change, as the lefties claimed ... well climate change well and truly lost, and the polls were bollocks.

Socialism lost.
Identity politics lost.
Political Correctness lost.

The silent majority has put things straight.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 20 May 2019 2:48:08 PM
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'Socialism lost.
Identity politics lost.
Political Correctness lost.'

as much as I agree with you ttbn don't forget that the Vic's recently voted in Daniel Andrews with a landslide. Strange at the Federal level the pundits see through all the lies that you listed but at state level it appears the opposite. The disposal of all the regressives from the Liberal party and now Phelps is very refreshing. Hopefully like Trump the tearing up of the Paris fraud will be next.
Posted by runner, Monday, 20 May 2019 3:01:39 PM
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Here are 10 reasons why Labor lost - more or less in accordance with Mark Powell in the Spectator:

Bill Shorten
Bill Shorten
Hawkes death reminding us how poorly Shorten measures up to the great man.
Shorten’s inability to cost policies.
Bob Brown and and anti-Adani gang in Queensland.
Israel Folau emphasising Labor’s lack of commitment to freedom of speech.
Threats to religious schools’ ability to hire whom they want
Gender nonsense.
Plibersek’s widening of abortions at taxpayer expense.
Scott Morrison.

Plus everything else, of course.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 20 May 2019 3:16:26 PM
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I wrote on another thread that there will be
a great deal of soul searching. Questions will
arise about polling, over preferences from
Clive Palmer and Pauline Hanson's One Nation
and of course over the very ambitious policy
agenda that Labor set.

Also of course there will be questions about the
leadership of the outgoing Opposition Leader.
Just as there were about Tony Abbott and
Malcolm Turnbull. That's nothing new in
politics. Playing the blame game is par for
the course.

But before anyone gets too smug - lessons
are to be learned from this election.

Despite 3 PMs in two terms of government the
Queensland swing to back the Coalition and swings
in Tasmania and WA showed us all that ultimately
jobs, and of course fear of change, were too dominant.

The PM focused on this - downplaying the Liberal
failures over the two terms,
and cultivating a new Scott Morrison image down-playing
the Liberal brand and -
promising to be a steady pair of hands on the economy.

We shall now have to wait and see whether the man can
actually deliver.

He's been returned in his own right.
He can't get knocked off. He should have the
authority within his own party to set the course. With
Tony Abbott gone, Scott Morrison can now look at some of
the elements of the Labor campaign and try to work out the
issues that motivated people to vote Labor - things
like an energy policy - for example - and negative gearing
reform.

We shall have to wait and see whether he will be able to
get something done - and not have a repeat of the same mess
that we've had. A blame game and scare campaign
can only work up to a point - and for a while.
People are now expecting to see results.
If they're not delivered - it may well be a different
outcome at the next election in three years time -
depending also of course on who Labor will choose as their
leader and what sort of a plan he/she will have.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 May 2019 3:51:56 PM
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cont'd ...

Tanya Plibersek has announced that she will not
be running for the position of Labor Leader.
She says that the time is not right for her due
to family commitments.

A wise move.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 May 2019 3:55:43 PM
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I have to agree with much of what you have written Foxy. The problem both parties have is to appeal to a divided nation. Labour seem to be winning seats where people are wealthy and have the privilege to push ideologies. Working people who now are concerned about jobs and electricity prices have turned to the Liberal party or One Nation in droves. Yep the rich idealist certainly helped in unseating Abbott while the same people helped the Liberals win many seats in Queensland with their push to wipe out jobs in the Coal Industry. The huge advantage the Liberals have now is the clear air Morrison has with probably the most humilated person on Saturday night not being Bill Shorten but Malcolm Turnbull. Personally I think Labour are going to be very very divided especially after losing the 'working man's' vote.
Posted by runner, Monday, 20 May 2019 4:01:41 PM
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