Belly,

"...pensioners eat tinned dog food, just to eat"

Tinned dog food is generally too expensive for pensioners, there is lots of tinned food for humans that is less expensive though probably not as nutritious,

is mise you may be right but my claim is true
Not for home owning pensioners or those living with family
Not those in homes, but some do struggle
Yes canned pet food, all pet food,is overpriced
But what meat is cheaper than dog food
Recommend my link in my post in the other Labor thread, it touches on very real reality check for my mob
IF we do not stop navel gazing long enough to know it was OUR voters who put us back in opposition we die

Belly,

You are trying to fight a battle that has already been lost. The reality is that while the ALP might have been aiming their tax at wealthy retirees it also hit 100 000s of less wealthy retirees who stood to loose a few $1000s of dollars each year and for whom this amount of money made a significant difference. Add to that all the people in their late 40s and 50s planning their retirements and you get a huge bunch of pissed off people who are not afraid to influence their children or grand children. For the relatively small tax take, there was a huge political price to pay and as Chris Bowen said, "if you don't like it don't vote for us" and they didn't.

That combined with pissing off millions of home owners who saw their major investment collapsing in value and we had Labor shooting itself in both feet.

SM finding it hard to believe but am told it is true
Personal, on facebook, been attacked by a redneck paying for his only home
He told me he thinks negative gearing would see him chucked out of his home
It is said, thousands of pensioners, are lining up at Social Security, for their franking credits
Sound purely a lie doesn't it
But then again one nation/Clive Palmer and the host of redneck parties get votes
That seems to say it can be true

Turnbull gone, Banks gone, Bishop gone, Pyne gone. Maybe with all these regressive gw alarmist gone their is hope for the Liberal party. ScoMo could give Abbott the post Shorten had promised Bishop. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Progressive was not a dirty word once, and it will not be again at some future time
The above list, named progressives, is far closer to true Liberalism that its author ever was
Labor, in hindsight, beat itself, it was unexpected but not a flogging, a humbling defeat yes
Morrison has his work cut out, for a short time his enemy is not Labor
It is the economy and the promise he made, including tax cuts that now maybe badly timed
In any case Labor should pass them, he has the mandate
Labors followers, will be confronted, [some of them] some still call for Adani to be stopped, [that was one of the ropes that hung Labour's election hopes
Sell the coal while we can, one day we will not have a market for it
And if we do not sell it others will and that says zero out comes for carbon reductions