This is what the religious far right in the US has managed to achieve in regards to abortion;

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The Trump administration's opposition to abortion has led to the watering-down of a UN resolution on ending sexual violence in war.
The US removed all references to sexual and reproductive health.
The Security Council resolution, submitted by Germany, dropped all such references. The US, along with China and Russia, had threatened to veto it.

The Trump administration opposed a phrase on the grounds that it implies support for abortion.

The amended resolution passed 13-0, with Russia and China abstaining.

French UN ambassador Francois Delattre was scathing of the decision to exclude the reference to sexual health, saying it undermined the dignity of women.

"It is intolerable and incomprehensible that the Security Council is incapable of acknowledging that women and girls who suffered from sexual violence in conflict, and who obviously didn't choose to become pregnant, should have the right to terminate their pregnancy," he said.

The removed phrase read: "Recognizing the importance of providing timely assistance to survivors of sexual violence, urges United Nations entities and donors to provide non-discriminatory and comprehensive health services, in line with Resolution 2106."
This line was thought to be a compromise from an earlier version, which included a more detailed description of the health services, "including sexual and reproductive health, psychosocial, legal, and livelihood support".
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48028773

So women and girls who have suffered the trauma of being raped in war time can not be assisted but instead face carrying the pregnancy full term impacting their health and social inclusion.

All because of the sexual hangups of people like runner.

Just brilliant.

'All because of the sexual hangups of people like runner.'

thanks for attributing me with so much power Steelie. I thinks it's more likely the new generation of young who are repulsed by the way your mob have slaughtered millions through organisations like planned parenthood. They are happy not to trash biology and see through your fake rage.

the very full lives many of her clients experience even though they had severe disabilities from birth.
Steele Redux,
This is an impossible argument but I stand by my stance that prevention is better than suffering even though the person who makes a living out of looking after disabled people says her client has a full life !

Steele Redux,
There were two programmes on TV last night on that very subject & two of the disabled stated that they required at least two people every day to keep them going. One said "you still have a brain so, use it !" Neither of them gave me the impression they were living a full life !
I just find it so sad that people are knowingly brought into this world to suffer when a professional abortion could have have prevented that. Once born, every being wants to live & it's too late to prevent the suffering then !
To some this may sound callous & heartless but to it is more callous & heartless to watch people suffer. I suppose the only phrase that could possibly be used in such situations is "you got to be cruel to be kind ".
It's just too awful a situation from my perspective !

a couple of points Individual.

You appear to be taking what you see as the high moral ground as far as unborn with disabilities. Here we are talking about 2 or 3 per cent of abortions? And so even if what you were saying that abortion is morally right (and I definitely disagree with you) in thee cases, its a very poor argument to justify the other 95 plus percentage being butchered for convenience. Adoption waiting list is very long. Instead we are importing some cultures that breed much but are not good citizens. Look at Europe who have aborted millions of babies while welcoming large populations of people who hate the West.

The other thing I will mention is a friend of mine who was pregnant and told her baby could well have down syndrome. She sought my advice as a friend. I told her down syndrome or not the babies life was precious. My wife has a down syndrome brother who is a delight. Anyway it turned out the 'experts' were wrong with this women's baby. It was perfectly healthy somewhat to my relief.

Before Australia was colonised Indigenous kids who were handicapped were at times clubbed due to practical reasons. I thought we had progressed beyond that barbarity.

runner,
I don't get what your point is because you're all over the place with this.
What I am saying is that if it can be ascertained early in pregnancy that the foetus is not normal then an abortion will save a life of anguish for mother & child & families & support agencies. That is not taking the moral high ground, that is just plain logic & selfless.
Anyone not seeing this in the right light better look for another planet to live on !