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So here we go again. Instead of the industry funding charging stations, as with ICE engines, it is to be another cost to the tax payer & electricity users.

We will pay to subsidies these things whether we want them or not.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 4 April 2019 8:26:32 PM
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In Victoria the chargers are being installed by a commercial
company. Some being installed elsewhere by companies and the NRMA
in NSW.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 4 April 2019 10:04:11 PM
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Federal Election: Bill Shorten says 50% of cars sold in Australia will be electric by 2030 under Labor and will reduce carbon emissions by 20%.

Bill Shorten says...
What sort of way is that to start a sentence Josephus?

My cheap fuel sniffer car is an i30 turbo diesel and uses around 5.5 litres per 100ks;
- But my 6cyl Commodore uses about double that.
50% reduction what the hell?

I'll have to put a V12 Rolls Royce Merlin engine in the Commodore to make up for you little girls willing to bend over and pull your cheeks apart because 'the man Bill Shorten' said so.

Why do I imagine Bill as a cross dresser sensually rubbing his own nipples?
Sorry I digress;

And honestly I'd prefer not to buy Allah Ackbar oil too.
I'd argue we should sanction them for subsidising terrorism;
- But I don't believe in collective punishment against an entire nation of citizens.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 April 2019 10:48:14 PM
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Hasbeen in my view Bazz has introduced some balance in to this subject
ACC you too focus on blame Labor for your dislike of the whole idea
In fact if the ALP did not exist we would, at some future time, have EVs
Progress is not alien to humanity
It in fact is and always has been standard stuff
Our world is not able to forever run on oil and coal, not for a minute supporting the greens ban it now
But even if we continue to use it full on, without other fuels, it will run out
Costs to us? any thoughts on the current rate of tax we pay right now for oil based fuels?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 5 April 2019 5:10:15 AM
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You may be right Belly, we may run out of oil & coal eventually, but why go broke wearing ashes & sackcloth a hundred years before we need to.

The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones, & we will come up with a much better alternative to batteries long before we run out of fossil fuels. Did you know we stopped using commercial sailing ships while the wind was still blowing.

Electric cars are a blind alley today, just as they were in the 20s, & will disappear as they did back then. It is only the global warming scam, & crony capitalism that has them even being considered. Legislation on electric cars is to make cronies rich, not improve the weather.

The way the sun spots are going we are going to need a whole lot of heating which will require more electricity than windmills & solar panels can supply. There will be precious little to spare on charging car batteries.

Shortens 50% alternate power generation stupidity will have us in the Venezuela category of power reliability soon enough without adding millions of car batteries to be charged.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 5 April 2019 12:01:07 PM
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Now Hasbeen touched a point that politicians do not understand.
We are going to be short of electricity, definitely if Labour wins.
We will be short of electricity at night as any sailor can tell you
the wind drops off at night and output from wind turbines fall to the
square root of the fall in wind speed. ie half the wind 1/4 the electricity.
Labour's proposal is not for 50% electric cars but 50% of sales are
to be electric cars. Quite a different thing.
Alan Jones & others raving on about time to charge.
The largest batteries other than Tesla are 64KWhr.
A 10 amp power point in your garage will provide 64kwhr / 2.4 kw in
26 hours on the presumption that the battery is dead flat.
If you have a 15 amp power point that time is 17.7 hours.
A Nissan leaf from dead flat would take 14 hrs in a 10 amp pwr point.
If you found that was happening too often you can get larger chargers
but three phase connections would not be necessary. You just get an
industrial power socket installed for say 30 amp & buy suitable charger.
How often does your car gets into your garage with an empty tank.

My friend with the iEMEV charges every second day 10pm to 8am and the
charger stops sometime earlier than that. he doesn't know he is asleep.
By the way Belly he is one of our mob.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 5 April 2019 1:37:49 PM
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