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http://www.smh.com.au/national/don-t-buy-the-scare-against-electric-vehicles-20190409-p51cea.html
This thread has stopped galloping, most dead horses do
It was aimed, by at least some contributors, as a to to condemn Labor
As the falsehood, pure lies Cash and others have used is unmasked we see less interest?
Or is the truth unwanted
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 4:52:10 PM
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Belly, Shorten's claim is futuristic, as is the article you refer to.

From http://techcrunch.com/2016/12/29/how-fast-is-fast-charging/ :

"At a Level 1 wall outlet, it generally takes overnight — or longer — to charge up a depleted EV battery. At a Level 2 charger, it takes overnight, more or less, to fully charge. At a Level 3 station, a battery can be recharged up to 80 percent usually in under an hour."

What do you think the average Joe's home charger would achieve? That's what Shorten was the context of the question Shorten was asked. More:

" ....here are some specifics as reported by the manufacturers:

Tesla Model S: 120 kw Supercharger station, to 80 percent charged in 40 minutes
Jaguar I-PACE concept EV: 50 kw Level 3 station, to 80 percent in 90 minutes
Chevy Bolt: 50 kw Level 3 station, 90 miles in 30 minutes
Nissan Leaf: 50 kw Level 3 station, 80 percent in 30 minutes"

Whatever Shorten asserts, I care not how long charging takes as much as I do about the system's capacity to charge. The further we deplete baseload the more pie-in -the-sky any push towards high EV penetration becomes because there is no viable storage solution, nor guarantee of backup gas supply, needed to cheaply deliver charging capacity on top of normal electricity demand growth. Furthermore, there is unlikely to be.
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:38:33 AM
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http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/coal-power-baron-says-electric-vehicles-an-inevitability-20190409-p51cak.html
Fossil fuel funding EVs? see link
Surely one of the weakest, and there have been many, fear and loathing campaigns this weak and dieing government ever thought up
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 11 April 2019 6:41:47 AM
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Shorten has spoken, all bow down.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 11 April 2019 8:13:03 AM
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is mise, you have my regards, that and so very many other posts, is showing us you know nothing about politics
and too fail to understand Labor is not about to win the election
Your colorless mob has conceded defeat
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 11 April 2019 1:21:52 PM
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If you simply want to move emissions out of urban areas to where the electricity is generated, fine, subsidize to that pointless end. If you want to impact on electricity generation emissions generally, there are better ways to spend public money.

http://contrarian.live/2019/04/11/swedish-study-on-ev-co2-footprint-will-surprise/?fbclid=IwAR05D6lpyFUJgw70Z8JaT4Ln6XQG3uwZW6z7YGL2qJ1rr1ujNjoSMNpGXpk
Posted by Luciferase, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:18:06 AM
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