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Bozec think much like you in the matter of exporting our jobs
Unfortunately world trade has its say, and profit
We ar [this mornings news]seeing 200 jobs go offshore [again] as huggys nappys leaves for cheaper labour
No way consumers will boycott/not buy the cheaper product, or support Australian made, even if it is EV,s
We can only hope we can develop new jobs around new industry
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 4 April 2019 5:42:27 AM
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A few points. Range of cars is increasing as designers learn how to
fit more cells in a given space. The new, only just been delivered
Hyundai Kona SUV has a range of 430 km.
From Sydney there are two chargers in Mittagong, an unknown number
in Goulburn, an unknown number in Canberra and the map of various
charger types can be seen on this map.

http://myelectriccar.com.au/charge-stations-in-australia/

The Queensland government has established a chain fo Chargers between
Brisbane and Cains and NRMA is doing the same in NSW.
It will take some time.
The car manufacturers are changing to electric cars already so there
will be no choice eventually.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 4 April 2019 12:53:54 PM
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Josephas, it is not to have 50% electric cars by 2030 but to have
50% sales of electric cars by then.

Is Mise, a friend has had a ieMEV Mitsubishi electric car for six years
and it has never been in for service. The brakes get hardky any use
because most braking is done by the regenerative braking.

Aiden, all cars could start charging at the same time as people use
timers to start after the off peak rate starts. Of course the control
could do it district by district.

Hasbeen, actually figures I have seen indicate that mine to pwr stn
to electricity to battery to wheels is more efficient than oil well
to refinery to petrol stn to ic engine to wheels.
The difference is largely in the ic engine heat loss.

Belly; Trips from Oslo to Tronheim is 450km, a trip Oslo to Stockholm
is 830 km so Norway is not as small as many think. Each stage is similar.

Hasbeen & Aiden; Wind Turbines can be started if they have the option
synthesised inertia fitted, but SA bought cheapies.

Joesphus; re batteries, my friend has had daily use and charge
recharge cycles for six years with only a very small reduction in capacity.

Bozec; There is a company in Melbourne building an electric delivery
van style vehicle with exchangeable bodies. Looks quite good but no details.

My friend has driven his car to work every day and weekends for six
years and it costs about $3 a week.
He thinks he might need new tyres in a couple of years and that will
be his total running costs.
Oh yes and he has never run out of battery.
I would buy one tomorrow if the prices were lower but $47k seems a bit
high at this stage. Had a look at the Hyundai iCONIC and I drooled
over it but sigh !
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 4 April 2019 4:19:39 PM
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I too Bazz would buy one today if not for the price
Your post confirms they have a very important place now and in the future
We must learn to trust future technology as it will change our world
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 4 April 2019 5:27:11 PM
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Belly: "We must learn to trust future technology as it will change our world."

Hydrogen fuel? Energy from thorium reactors?

There are a lot of possibilities out there but it all depends on economics.
Posted by Bozec, Thursday, 4 April 2019 7:52:55 PM
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Yes Belly they are promising. Only a few manufacturers have reached
the point of actually selling cars in Australia.
Tesla, Hyundai, BMW and Renault. Nissan not till next month.
Kia will have a car here end this year and Volkswagen, Audi unknown.
Overseas the majority have cars on the market. GM and Ford are the
major laggards.
There will be a problem with power supply for chargers but the demand
will only increase slowly so development should be able to keep up with it.
I can see a problem at certain times, with thousands of cars leaving
say Sydney at Easter and arriving 300km up the coast at almost the same time.
Locations will probably develop with large numbers of chargers.
Drivers will learn and stop and get a half charge when half discharged
and then bypass known places of charge congestion. The dash display
can tell you where chargers are located and which are in use.
The software that is being developed is becoming very clever.
I have seen a photo of a Norwegian charging station with at least eight
chargers, more out of sight. There were two Teslas and one Nissan Leaf.
People will adapt their behavior to suit the environment.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 4 April 2019 8:01:40 PM
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