Federal Election: Bill Shorten says 50% of cars sold in Australia will be electric by 2030 under Labor and will reduce carbon emissions by 20%.
Is this a reality or just a pipe dream? What effects will it have on the economy and employment? Especially in the fuel and it supply industries?

Don't worry Josephus, our grid would collapse long before anything more than a small penetration was achieved.

Sough Oz could end up dark foe weeks.

Well electric cars will arrive, all on their own , see profit drives the industry and that will drive the cars
Some trucks are electric,some countries far more concerned about climate change than ScoMos tossers
Credlin, told us Abbott developed the term *Carbon Tax* to frighten the chooks, and aged non thinkers
It worked, for a while, progress can not be stopped once no doubt, people sniggered when told whale oil would no longer light street lamps
Economy? fossil fuels will run out one day,we know that, Bazz often warns us it is now, some pain for owners of fossil fuels, but spread over years

So how much more electricity will be needed to charge up all those millions of cars ? And everybody going for the 'cheapest' hourly rate, which will push up the hourly rate ? Goodbye. Snowy 2.0. How much more renewable energy will have to be factored in to power millions of cars ?

Or is this just a scam to massively benefit the auto companies in one of those historic 'revolutions' in technology ? Not to mention the energy companies ?

They moan about the cost of electricity (when it's clearly their fault); they say that we have to use more wind and solar and do away with coal ALTOGETHER; they won't have a bar of nuclear. But, now we should use more electricity in cars. In the building as well as the driving.

Politician = lunatic.

C02 emissions reduced by 20% thanks to four wheeled sewing machines? Any reduction is likely to be due to the fact that that their will be fewer internal combustion engines, because people will not be able to afford electric cars - electric cars which will need massive amounts of electricity to produce. We are going to have to reduce the population before we reduce any more emissions.

Politician = lunatic.

What about heavy, long distance haulage that keeps the country going. Back to bullock wagons, with the only thing 'electric’ will be the colourful language of the 'bullockies” in the air.

Politician = lunatic.

And it's not just Labor. Liberal lunacy is not far behind the Labor sort. Their much-touted minister for reducing electricity prices, Angus Taylor, has proved to be a dud.

The politicians/lunatics driving Australia into the ground cannot meet their obligations to have 90 days fuel on hand. Any interruption to our fuel imports (think China) would see Australia grind to a halt in 30 days. Compare this with the likes of the U.S, 12 months emergency supply available; Switzerland, 6 months.

And these bastards can only talk crap about electric cars in 20 years! The lunatics cannot be trusted to supply us with any more than a month's worth of fuel now; they cannot be trusted with any sort of energy at any time.

All this reference from Shorten's supporters to Norway's heavy adoption of electric cars neglects the fact that HEP drives its grid, 24/7/365. Just more sleight of hand from the same Greenies touting Iceland as the poster-child for 100% renewables (geothermal 24/7/365) that the world should emulate.

If/when vehicless are chargeable by a grid that can cope it will be powered some by renewables but mostly with fossil-fueled backup/baseload. Any dream of storage holding the key is crap piled on the dung notion storage can serve the electricity system sufficient for 100% renewables.

We'll see some some reduction in emissions, but not what's required to sufficiently address CAGW. Nuclear is the only sensible technology in Oz that will make electrification of transport (and electrification in general) demand responsive, and can also be used to synthesize fuel to meet shipping and long-haul demand.

Electric vehicles can make their own way into the market successfully without unnecessary direct/indirect subsidies. I'd also like to know how Shorten can assure industry of his claim it will not be impacted by his energy policy. Other energy consumers will have to cover the true cost through higher bills and other forms of public subsidy, but he won't say that.