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A View of Trump

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Conservative that brand once meant something far different that todys use of the word
How much of the world is conservative?
Even here in our country the ALP gets the biggest first preference vote, for any single party, surely not conservatives
Trump is, tell me it is not true, a super conservative
Right now his electoral base, see the polls, is in the 40,s
So what of the rest of America
Hasbeen charged me with a bias about Trump so intense he calls it hate
Just maybe it takes a blindness to others opinions to be a Trump supporter
Posted by Belly, Monday, 1 April 2019 4:06:00 AM
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"Most people that I know not only in Australia but
in the US, Germany, and the UK - all feel like
Belly - about Trump."

You should get a wider body of friends.

But its certainly true that people do tend to seek a bubble in which they only hear news and views that confirm and comfort their own views.

Two iconic stories on this from the recent past:

In the early 2000's one left wing journalist developed the opinion and the theory that Bush must have rigged the election because she'd never met anyone who voted for him.

More recently when it was pointed out that the most popular style of vehicle in the USA was the pickup truck, journalists on the NYT expressed doubt about the statistics because they didn't know anyone who owned such a vehicle. They were of course ubiquitous in fly-over USA

Some of the best journalism over the past few years are from people who've retired into middle America (Surber) or people who've made a conscious effort to understand middle America. These are the people who identified and understood the Trump revolution and consequently predicted the Trump victory.

You simply have to seek them out in order to understand what's happening in the USA. Otherwise you'll continue to be bamboozled by events. That people who spent 2 and a half years believing the lies that were fed to them about Russian collusion, continue to faithfully accept the word of those same sources now, strikes me as a desire to be comforted rather than a desire to understand.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 April 2019 7:37:23 AM
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mhaze you understand every chance exists you are wrong?
That just maybe those of us opposed to a fat rich, sexual offending scam artist may not be unbalanced?
Time will tell
Never been one for following trends
Truth matters, sadly less in America than we once thought
Posted by Belly, Monday, 1 April 2019 10:38:00 AM
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Telecommunications (travel, trade) have now made us more inter-connected and interdependent in our modern world than ever before.
Having friends and family living throughout the US and the globe
also helps give some of us a broader picture. Donald Trump's
personality has been described as extreme by any standard.
Narcissistic is a word that's often used. CNN tells us that
he "keeps hitting new lows." That 70% say Trump acts
"unpresidential." The NY Times has documented Donald Trump's
"Sojourn at the White House." The Atlantic - has compiled a time
capsule of the "Things Trump Says." And so it goes.

Love him or loathe him - one thing's for sure. He manages to
attract crowds. Is he good for America? History will judge.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:16:05 AM
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Hi there FOXY...

I think you're right. '...Love him or loathe him - one thing's for sure. He manages to attract crowds. Is he good for America? History will judge...' I don't believe you've ever spoken a truer word, FOXY? Indeed history will judge, unfortunately, I won't be here to know what history has recorded, concerning the Presidency of Donald TRUMP?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:28:51 AM
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Dear mhaze,

You write;

“he has removed the country from the Paris Agreement....good
removed the US from the Iran nuclear deal.....good
tried and failed to repeal Obamacare,....failed? Individual mandate gone plus this http://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/25/trump-obamacare-justice-department-1236116
rolled back Obama’s regulations dealing with pollution and climate change....good”

Mate you really do have Trump Derangement Syndrome in spades don't you.

Most Australians fully support our health care system, it is civilised, keeps healthcare costs in check and it delivers vital healthcare to all Australians. Obamacare was an attempt albeit small to increase the numbers of Americans with access to decent healthcare. There are people dying and being forced into bankruptcy because of the dog eat dog system in the US. Obamacare was a step in the right direction yet here you are celebrating Trump's assault on it.

My question is why? Do you really want to see Medicare dismantled in this country? Or is it just a case of Trump can do no wrong in your eyes and the values we hold in this country come second to your adulation of the tosser?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:11:31 PM
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