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A View of Trump

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One other thing you said was:

"The world needs leaders who are truly ethical, visionary and just; who personify integrity, honesty and virtue, who maintain and demand the highest levels of morality, tolerance, empathy and justice."

There's no leader that fulfills these demands. Instead what we get are leaders that seek to have the power, and regardless if it's for noble reasons or because they they are greedy that is the position of seeking an office as a country's leader. However, the task of being a national leader has demands on it to keep the country in a good working state, otherwise it will fall apart, or the people will turn against you. Even if a world leader isn't the best of the best, (they usually aren't) having that responsibility molds them to either take on that responsibility well or to fail miserably. If you want, watch the US closely. But in the end, it's our own battle to figure out our own country. I don't think Trump is a Tyrant, but I also don't think the people in the US will give him the ability to be a tyrant even if he wanted to be one.

Let me put it another way. For at least the past three presidents the US has becoming more and more split. Almost to the point of riots and conditions leading up to a civil war. The issue with Trump is that he is not supported well enough to be a dictator, because if anything would happen it would be a civil war before that would take place. With this in mind, the US does not need international focus to divide our nation even more. Which is exactly what is happening with the world demeaning Trump when most of the leaders and countries condemning him are doing no better themselves.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 14 April 2019 2:10:20 AM
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Dear Belly,

I hope at some future date you can look up to the USA again. I hope the government of the USA will try to be better in care for the environment, education, lack of corruption, concern for the environment, lower infant mortality rates, universal medical care, a decent living standard for all, a smaller gap between rich and poor, support for science and the humanities, separation of religion and state, support for democracy, harmony between people of different ethnicities and religions and a vision of greatness that relies on more than being the most powerful bully on the block and the world’s policeman.

I would like to see the United States work with other nations to see a world under international law and participate in the UN, the international Criminal Court, international climate agreements, meaningful disarmament conferences, foreign aid to lift up the people of other countries and population control. I would like to see a world that abandoned religious and other superstitions. I would like to see a world that was tolerant to those who wish to keep those superstitions but would not allow their superstition to control others

I hope we will not enter a new Dark Age with a further retreat from reason, democracy and human rights. There are those who would turn the clock back by making abortion illegal again in countries that have liberated women from the tyranny of controlling their bodies, exalting superstition above reason, increasing nationalism (Brexit is an example), ignoring climate change and putting their countries in the hands of such as Trump, Duterte, Orban, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Putin and others of their ilk. At this time they seem to be succeeding.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 14 April 2019 7:25:36 AM
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david f do you know we think much the same, not one thing there I do want and agree with
Money and greed has its hands around the throat of world governments
We should confront, here and all over the world, dividing us by race or belief, is blindness
It can never happen
So just maybe one world one set of laws policed, is the best way forward
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 14 April 2019 12:55:53 PM
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Dear Belly,

I think better than one set of laws for all would be to have fewer laws and learn to live with those who think differently.
Posted by david f, Monday, 15 April 2019 10:03:40 AM
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david f yes and yes it is in fact my view that one day we will have one set of laws and much more inflicted on us
Seems we cannot work it out for ourselves so it will be done for us
Not by someone like Trump however, he thrives on division
Posted by Belly, Monday, 15 April 2019 12:57:16 PM
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Some, even myself, will question me over this post
Watched Trump talking about the Muslim senator, we all know the one Democrat, my defaultr side, Trump reveled in tormenting her, his crowd loved it
She bought it on herself.
YES she did, nine even was about pure insane filth
No place for the usual, *it was wrong BUT*
Such default Islamic answers, even useds by the nicest people, is inflammatory, feeds hate,divides the community
Terrorism is never justified, but Trump is a Tramp,please America, home of world entertainment tell us he is just a B grade movie and it will end soon
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 6:35:46 AM
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