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Steele,

I feel that I must apologise also, I remember well how you lamented the loss of Muslim lives the last time a mosque was attacked in Pakistan.
Here was me thinking that you were only making political capital because it was in NZ.

Do you think that there will be retaliation and if not, why not?

If you think that there might be retaliation, what do you think we can do to make Australia safer?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 16 March 2019 3:06:38 PM
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Is Mise,

No you will not be allowed to carry a concealed weapon to wander our streets looking for anybody who fits your stereotype.

Also given the language you have used in the past on this forum, and the fact you have numerous weapons, and the fact you are in the mind to go into our communities with a concealed firearm why on earth aren't you someone who should be reported to the authorities?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 16 March 2019 3:25:21 PM
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Hi (again) STEELEREDUX...

Thank you for 'letting me down more gently than I deserve' through the error of my wrongful quotation.

Unfortunately, Steele its no longer a case of 'stirring' the pot' and creating further division & tension, it's already here. It was overtly present, even when I headed one of the task forces into the Lebanese Crime Gang activities, operating out of the Bankstown & Punchbowl regions of Sydney.

Spread now to Wiley Park, Belfield, and its environs. You speak of guns - I would hasten to add, there are more illegal H'guns; 9mm Suby's; such as Uzi's, Ingram's, & H & K's MP5's, and other frightening F/A, of a type many an Aussie's, never seen?

When I was still in the job 10K, would get you a serviceable Subie. in 9mm. Anyone silly enough to want an Ingram Mod 10 in either 9mm or .45ACP. with a cyclic rate of fire of 1000rds pm, would pay upwards of 12 - 14K, and it would arrive in two separate packages. So patience was the key-word for all potential Ingram buyers, as well as a lot of cash.

Of course, I'm right out of it now, and most of my colleagues have also retired. So we only hear snippets of what's going on, and who's who in the Zoo. I would venture to say, there's more illegal F/A's in society, than those that are legal and registered. It's not a case whether will we have a Christchurch style, massacre in Australia, rather it's when?
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 16 March 2019 4:21:56 PM
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Steele,

"Also given the language you have used in the past on this forum, and the fact you have numerous weapons, and the fact you are in the mind to go into our communities with a concealed firearm why on earth aren't you someone who should be reported to the authorities?"

Only in your mind am I wanting to go into our communities with a concealed firearm.
I have never said that I wanted to do so, it's all in your mind I do remember saying what a bloody nuisance it is to carry a concealed pistol, particularly when summer is coming on and one wants to take the coat off.
But do you think that there will be retaliation and if not, why not?
And what can Australia do to counter such a threat, that is If you think that there might be one?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 16 March 2019 5:14:29 PM
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Dear o sung wu,

You wrote;

“It's not a case whether will we have a Christchurch style, massacre in Australia, rather it's when?”

Unfortunately I think you are right.

Those peddling Islamaphobia will likely be further inspired to inflame as the election closes in.

There are others who are determined to see gun laws which have thus far protected us from such mass carnage dismantled. I hear the killer used a semi-automatic shotgun and a lever action weapon, both have been the subject of contention in Australia recently. The death toll is unlikely to weaken their resolve.

I am sure there will be others who are primed to respond to messages of fear and hate. It will take the hard work of all right minded Australians to help prevent the poison peddlers from their evil.

I was really pissed off when Australian citizens went to Syria and joined Isis. It was hard for me to reconcile it to our values and way of life. But there is a world of difference from going to fight in a war zone to taking a cache of guns to a mosque to kill 49 innocent unarmed people in a country like NZ. We have to live with the fact that one of us went and did that. It will not be easy and how the world view us, supposedly as a laid back country, will rightly suffer.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 16 March 2019 7:46:06 PM
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Steele,

Just for information purposes, but semi-automatic and lever action shotguns of the types available in NZ and Australia are not the deadliest guns if a sustained rate of fire is considered, the common double-barreled, self-cocking, ejector gun is faster and can fire more shots in a minute than either of them.

Double barrel shotguns are Cat A in Australia, the lowest category.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 16 March 2019 9:15:39 PM
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