Steele,

"We now have more guns in this country than pre Port Arthur and gun laws are getting more and more lax each election cycle."

and firearms crime is falling, so it would seem that the mantra "More guns means more crime" is fallacious.

Could you please shew me some evidence that gun laws are getting more lax?

Or are you just sprouting Gun Control Australia's three members' usual rants?

Of course, there are more guns than after the Buy-Back, the gun laws are working and more and more people are taking up the sport and complying with the law.

Why are you so down on law-abiding citizens

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/fact-check-gun-homicides-and-suicides-john-howard-port-arthur/7254880

I'm all in favour of the majority of our gun laws for without them we would not have the world-class facilities of our major complexes, nor would the minor ranges be in such good condition

Our local pistol range now has electronic control turning targets on the pistol range, the connection of the power alone was $10,000, paid by Government grant.
The main range has flushing toilets including a handicapped toilet so some of our members who are unfortunately restricted to wheelchairs can now attend the range without the previous hassles.

All in all, John Howard, the "Father of the Australian Gun Lobby" is to be commended.

Bye the way, Steele, I notice that on this and other posts you keep making sexual references, don't worry about it, dysfunction comes to all of us eventually; I'm told that there are medications available, so keep your chin, if nothing else, up.

Foxy Your link is to the Washington Post (fake news incorporated)

My figures were from the CDC, nice try but epic fail.

Also very noticeable SteeleRedux completely ignored the figure, wise move as she can't deny them and in total they make a mockery of her few examples.

Philip S.,

I cited The Washington Post, but the information is
also given in Forbes and the FBI's homicide database.
BTW - I didn't read your post . I usually don't as a
rule, unless it's addressed to me. I don't find your
information or you credible or of any particular interest.
All you ever do is whinge. So yesterday!

Foxy,

Did the Washington Post tell you that,

"WASHINGTON — In D.C., 160 people died by homicide in 2018, up from 116 in 2017 — a spike of about 40 percent.

In all, of the 534 people shot by another person in D.C. through mid-December, 23 percent ultimately died, according to statistics compiled by The Washington Post. That includes 12 deaths from previous years that police only recently deemed as homicides.

City officials say more gun violence has contributed to the rising number of murders, and D.C. saw one of the biggest increases in fatal shootings nationwide while most other major cities reported overall decreases.

Petty disputes between people who know each other and who have guns are at the root of the killings, the Post reports.

While homicides soared in D.C., deaths from shootings were down in other parts of the region.

In Montgomery County, Maryland, homicides decreased from 21 in 2017 to 19 in 2018, while in Fairfax County, Virginia, fatal shootings fell from 18 to 13 across the past two years.

Maryland’s Prince George’s County saw one of the most significant annual drops, going from 80 homicides in 2017 to 60 last year. In the Arlington, Virginia, homicides went from four to just three in 2018.

“When you look at our known homicide offenders in the city, about 40 percent of those have a prior gun arrest,” D.C. police chief Peter Newsham said. “At all levels of the criminal justice system, we have to do better"
http://wtop.com/dc/2019/01/2018-homicides-in-the-district-increased-while-the-murder-rate-in-other-parts-of-our-region-went-down/

Is Mise,

That only confirms that the value of fire arms in the
hands of law-abiding citizens needs to be
measured in terms of lives saved or crimes prevented.
Which is the point being made.

Foxy - Enjoy your life as you by your words identify as a mushroom thrives on BS and usually kept in the dark.