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Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 11:24:50 AM
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Strangely no one has commented on Abdul Aziz, the man who is credited with stopping more murders in the second mosque in Christchurch.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/17/come-here-the-man-who-chased-away-the-christchurch-shooter Perhaps it's because he is a Muslim, or because he picked up a firearm and was prepared to use it against the killer? However it goes, I still think that he deserves a medal. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 7 April 2019 10:23:43 AM
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Is Mise,
Oh good lord. That is just batshit crazy. Stop it now. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 7 April 2019 11:49:58 AM
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Hi there STEELEREDUX...
I'm very sorry; I must owe you several responses to many of your inquiries, the truth is, it's getting much harder to think and to write anything of substance these days. I've re-read your most recent Emails, including my own, and I can't for the life of me, understand quite what you want me to say, Steele? I reiterate, I believe any government, even a bi-partisan arrangement, who are foolish enough to outlaw personal F/A ownership, will face serious community unrest. Most reasonable F/A owners, accept and will willingly participate, as they've done; With, mandatory registration and careful screening of all applicants (both mental health, and criminal) to establish their fitness to possess and use a F/A. Any further restrictive processes will not be very well tolerated, and only drive ownership of F/A's underground. I share this with you, Steele. Some time ago, I joined a particular club that uses larger centrefires as part of their competition. I purchased a used (but immaculate) Ruger, No.1 'Tropical' in .458 calibre which is a single shot. Because I'm on a Military Pension for PTSD, I had to disclose this fact in my application as a mental condition. I was then required to furnish a letter from my Psychiatrist to, accompany my application before they'd even consider me. Fortunately, they believed me to be a fit and proper person to possess and use a F/A. Since my retirement and my advanced age, I regrettably sold the No.1, as I thoroughly enjoyed dismantling and re-assembling the rifle over time, even though I'd given up shooting. Posted by o sung wu, Sunday, 7 April 2019 1:20:05 PM
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Steele,
"Oh good lord. That is just batshit crazy. Stop it now." Why? Don't you think that Abdul Aziz Wahabzada, to give him his full name, is worthy of the highest recognition of bravery that NZ has to offer? It takes great guts to face an armed man when one is unarmed, it's bad enough when one is armed, ask O Sung Wu, he's been there, done that! Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 7 April 2019 3:16:09 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
You are being a clown again that is why you should stop. You said that Abdul Aziz Wahabzada has not got his due possibly because he picked up a firearm. That is just inane rubbish being propagated by a gun nut fetisher, you. Of course you want the argument to then go to having an armed citizenry as part of our culture ignoring the fact that the relatively easy pathway for the shooter to legally arm himself before going on his rampage should mean the NZ government is perfectly within its rights to further restrict gun rights in their own country. We are not buying into your self defence rationale for spreading your fetish through our culture. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 7 April 2019 6:05:35 PM
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With respect may I point out I dutifully attempted to furnish an opinion on each of the points you raised, even rebadging one that you had described as “puerile” instead as merely 'tenuous' and deserving of a proper consideration along with a fulsome reply.
If you feel I have taken things out of context or cherry picked then I will attempt to be more articulate on things like this in the future since that was not my intention. However you did label a particular point as the 'overriding consideration' and I felt you were clearly warning that removal of weaponry from the citizenry would likely cause civil unrest thus should be at the forefront of any thinking regarding gun law reform. Especially since you had earlier prefaced it with “I share your views when you speak of the horror that occurred in the Christchurch Mosques. What measures can be taken to ensure it's not repeated? Tightening up on the existing Firearms laws is not the answer.”
Perhaps my comprehension skills are a little off so you may need to illustrate why that was not a reasonable assumption.