So Is Mise, not a single word about the victims, 'just let me get my special constable pin so I get to walk around secret agent style and revel in my fetish to my heart's content'.

You sir are an absolute disgrace. What would be a really good idea is for you to put a plug in it for a while.

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

C'mon ol' man, what do you mean by telling IS MISE to, 'put a plug in it'! That goes against the whole tenor & objective of the Forum. Its purpose is to hear everyone's opinion irrespective whether you agree or not! And why does he, 'a disgrace' - because he has a different opinion to yours? Or is it the quality & themes that he's expressed in his opinion?

Now to another Post of yours if I may. You wrote inter alia, '...People criticize those Eastern European countries for refusing Muslim immigrants, but can you blame them after being occupied by Muslims...'. It's for this reason why Australia should not encourage Islamic settlers into this country, for very much the same reason. They can, and they do represent trouble.

Notwithstanding, Muslims in Australia represent a relatively small demographic, and nowhere near strong enough to cause any significant problems in this country. However, there's sufficient empirical evidence to suggest, that anywhere in the world where Muslims hold sway, there are invariably problems. Save for the strictly Islamic Nations of the Middle East who rule by religious fear, and 12th Century punishments. Accordingly, we don't need to experience that type of dread, any more than what I've already observed in Punchbowl & Bankstown in Sydney's SW Suburbs.

Steele,

Face up to what has and is likely to happen.

"I am going to call out every person on this thread who have referred to Muslim immigration to this country as an invasion, this is in part on your head.

For every person who has hyped anti-Muslim sentiments, have referred to them as less than human, who have attempted to drive fear and division in our community this is in part on you.

To every person on the forum who has voiced support for hard right fascist parties and policies, this is in part on you.

For every single selfish sod who wants easier access to weaponry, this is in part on you.

For every race and religion baiter who has spread their poison on this forum, this is also in part on you.

Perhaps it is time to reflect on the way you have conducted yourselves and resolve to do far better in the future.

God damn it!"

What incredible childish and petulant rubbish.

Hi (again) STEELETREDUX...

NO EXCUSES, I'm sorry I've misquoted you, and profoundly so! The middle paragraph of my last post, I'd attributed to you, and I was WRONG to do so. It came from the 'mission statement' of that murderous gunman in NZ. I'm sorry.

Whether whatever this madman had said was completely correct, his argument has been utterly neutralized by his murderous slaughter of innocents. Innocents who were doing nothing more than praying to their God.

Perhaps if anyone wanted to have a quick glimpse at evil incarnate, they need to go no further then to gaze upon the screwed up countenance of this arbitrary killer of worshipers.

Again, my apologies for misquoting you, Steele.

Dear o sung wu,

Thank you for your post.

I certainly don't resile one jot from what I said but I will acknowledge that furnishing a more fulsome explanation, given the query came from you, is warranted.

There is little doubt that over hyping, scaremongering, and blatant propaganda contributed to the radicalisation of this Australian lad. He was responding to that fearmongering in a way that others are no doubt contemplating.

So when Is Mise started yet again down that very path of promoting fear and mistrust in Muslim Australians it was simply more of the same, and therefore he was rightly asked to put a plug in it. The last thing we need to do in this country or NZ is propagate the very thing that caused it in the first place.

I acknowledge you find yourself in a position of defending him which is fine. But you will understand I hope that I am under no obligation to do so. I also hope that this is not the time to be attempting to stir up division and tension.

Secondly I'm afraid I have deliberately been a little obtuse with the quotation you feel you misused. I labelled it 'virtual' because I had actually taken the quote directly from one of Bazz's offerings. I wanted to make the point that one of our resident anti-Muslim posters would likely be indistinguishable from that of this terrorist.

My apologies that it ended up being you who flagged it but I feel the point has been made.

'There is little doubt that over hyping, scaremongering, and blatant propaganda contributed to the radicalisation of this Australian lad. '

so you mean the next mass murderer will be a gw warrior Steelie.