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Bring IS fighters home?

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individual,

"so what do you suggest ? Give up ?"

Not at all, I was merely making an observation relative to creating a problem for one's self.
Personally, I'd stop all Muslim migration and deport any that step out of line.
My good Muslim mate, up in India, who happens to be a Prince among his own Muslim people, thinks that Australia is mad to have Muslim migrants and he knows his own people, having fought against Muslims, whilst leading Muslim troops, in the liberation of East Pakistan.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 22 February 2019 5:15:03 PM
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Dear individual,

It really comes down to how you characterise it doesn't it. Is Trump "giving up" or pulling out"?

Was it the removal of British troops and the ceasing of operations in Northern Ireland that paved the way for the peace process?

It was these two statements from Major which lead to the IRA committing to a ceasefire a year later.

"The British government had no "selfish strategic or economic" interest in Northern Ireland." and "The people of the island of Ireland, North and South, had the exclusive right to solve the issues between North and South by mutual consent."

There is no doubt that Australia's involvement in taking lives in Syria and beyond would have played a part in both terrorist related actions on our soil and the provided motivation to some here to make their way to the conflict zone. The fact that New Zealand was not involved and has been relatively free from terrorism events is a case in point.

So time will tell if a withdrawal of Australian forces from that region will reduce risk levels here. I suspect they will.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 22 February 2019 5:45:42 PM
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Australian forces from that region will reduce risk levels here. I suspect they will.
Steele Redux,
That'd be great but since it has nothing to do with involvement in the conflict, the quest for eventually making Australia an islamic country will continue.
Posted by individual, Friday, 22 February 2019 6:02:44 PM
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Funny part of all this though is that the US (and others) are responsible for the 'Arab Spring'.
US was quite happy to pretend to be fighting IS and letting their oil convoys through until Russia came onto the scene.
The whole Syrian war was a western backed failed regime change.

I understand Shemima was young, has a baby, went into it at a young age (some may argue not able to make adult decisions), may not have been directly involved in the fighting and is a woman...

Hang on... wait a bloody minute.
She's a perfect 'victim' poster child for every women and human rights organisation to drive us into arguments over;
With the result of 'forcing down our guard down' with victimhood and pave the way to let ALL these people off.
- They're playing us -

In any case:

I don't necessarily think any of these people deserve due process;
- Not in the current political climate -

When David Icke (British citizen) cannot travel or speak in Australia;
Or when Tommy Robinson is persecuted for speaking and reporting freely on Muslims;
When our rights in our own countries are denied and trampled upon
And we're attacked and vilified for having an opinion and daring to express it (Sonia Kruger)
- Then I couldn't give a stuff about her 'due process'.
Restore OUR rights first, then I'll think about hers.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 22 February 2019 7:04:46 PM
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Luke 17:3-4

“If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”

Let them come home. But there are two conditions they should do.

1). Apologize for joining and supporting IS.
2). If they come with children, they give up their children to the state, just as abusive parents have to give up their children to child services for being bad parents.

If they can do both of these things then they must be sincere in wanting to come home. Do anything else you think is necessary from serving in prison, or register as a terrorist bride and have similar zoning laws for where they can live as a sex offender has; such as to not be allowed to live near any schools. But if they can do the first two conditions then let them come home.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 23 February 2019 2:19:49 AM
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Hey Not_Now.Soon,

I believe in:
1. Stay on top of things (That's not just money that's everything else as well.)
2. Make the most of life's opportunities
3. Don't let others get the best of you.

I'd like to point out some flaws in your religious ideology.

“If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”

I say fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

If they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ then obviously they didn't care about sinning against you in the first place; they certainly weren't sincere which means they're lying and treating you like an idiot and all you're doing is giving their sins a free pass.

Is your tolerance of sins unconditional?
Do you like living in a world of sin?
- Well you created it, by always giving it a free pass...

You might be trying to be the good Samaritan but these people are not your brothers, not even the same religious denomination, and they want you dead.

The difference between me and you is you're quite happy to let snakes and spiders into your home believing 'love conquers all'.

You're happy to accept it that they may sin against you or even me again and you're ok with it.
But for me (and this is my home and my country too)
I'd have their heads in a basket before I gave any of these people the opportunity to ever hurt any single one of you; but that's just me.

Your religious beliefs mean you can't see things clearly.
You're willing to put everyone's lives in danger for something that you personally believe in.
Your decision that puts everyone's lives in danger but you think its ethical and morally righteous?

I'll make the decision that you can't make, that ensures everyone's safety.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 23 February 2019 4:50:14 AM
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